* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language [not found] <pmWj9.1038536$oa7.35341868@Flipper> @ 2002-09-24 18:35 ` Richard Riehle 0 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Richard Riehle @ 2002-09-24 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw) The following was recently posted on comp.programming. It is probably of interest to readers of comp.lang.ada Richard Riehle ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CodeMage wrote: > Jim Rogers has written a thorough introduction to the Ada programming > language for the CodeMages Community web site, illustrating Ada's syntax and > features with a lot of example code and by comparing Ada with better known > languages like C++ and Java. > > If you are interested to know more about this fascinating language then read > the complete article in the Coding | Ada section of the CodeMages Community > web site at: > http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=IntroducingAda > > We would love to get some feedback on this article (and others) in the form > of an e-mail to codemage@crystalcode.com (which will be forwarded to the > author) or in the form of a discussion with the author and other members on > the CodeMages Community Forum. > > Also, our brand new developers community needs more serious contributors > like Jim who can write high quality technical articles about software > development or web design techniques. For more information and other > contribution possibilities please write to codemage@crystalcode.com or visit > the CodeMages Community web site at http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage > > Thanks for your time, > > ---- > CodeMage > The CodeMages Community > ------------ > E-mail: codemage@crystalcode.com > Web site: http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage > Forum: http://www.crystalcode.com/codemageforum > (register for free at > http://www.crystalcode.com/codemageforum/member.php?action=reg to join in > the discussions) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language @ 2002-09-24 9:34 CodeMage 2002-09-25 22:21 ` Wes Groleau 2002-10-02 13:42 ` Daniel Dudley 0 siblings, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-09-24 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw) Jim Rogers has written a thorough introduction to the Ada programming language for the CodeMages Community web site, illustrating Ada's syntax and features with a lot of example code and by comparing Ada with better known languages like C++ and Java. If you are interested to know more about this fascinating language then read the complete article in the Coding | Ada section of the CodeMages Community web site at: http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=IntroducingAda We would love to get some feedback on this article (and others) in the form of an e-mail to codemage@crystalcode.com (which will be forwarded to the author) or in the form of a discussion with the author and other members on the CodeMages Community Forum. Also, our brand new developers community needs more serious contributors like Jim who can write high quality technical articles about software development or web design techniques. For more information and other contribution possibilities please write to codemage@crystalcode.com or visit the CodeMages Community web site at http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage Thanks for your time, ---- CodeMage The CodeMages Community ------------ E-mail: codemage@crystalcode.com Web site: http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage Forum: http://www.crystalcode.com/codemageforum (register for free at http://www.crystalcode.com/codemageforum/member.php?action=reg to join in the discussions) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-24 9:34 CodeMage @ 2002-09-25 22:21 ` Wes Groleau 2002-09-25 22:49 ` Wes Groleau 2002-09-26 4:23 ` Ted Dennison 2002-10-02 13:42 ` Daniel Dudley 1 sibling, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Wes Groleau @ 2002-09-25 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw) CodeMage wrote: > Jim Rogers has written a thorough introduction to the Ada programming > language .... Looks like a pretty good article. > If you are interested .... > http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=IntroducingAda > > We would love to get some feedback on this article (and others) in the form > of an e-mail to codemage@crystalcode.com (which will be forwarded to the > author) or in the form of a discussion with the author and other members on > the CodeMages Community Forum. Forward this to the webmaster rather than the author. On Netscape 4.79, the nav sidebar sits on top of the article text. On Internet Explorer 6.0, the window is solid white--no text. On Opera .... not only is this one of the few pages that I've crash Opera, but it also changed my Opera preferences to return to that URI every time--and crash before I can change it back! -- Wes Groleau http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-25 22:21 ` Wes Groleau @ 2002-09-25 22:49 ` Wes Groleau 2002-09-26 2:36 ` SteveD 2002-09-26 12:20 ` Marin David Condic 2002-09-26 4:23 ` Ted Dennison 1 sibling, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Wes Groleau @ 2002-09-25 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw) Wes Groleau wrote: > Forward this to the webmaster rather than the author. Never mind--guy next door sees it fine in both Opera and IE6. Must be a Windows 2000 problem. -- Wes Groleau http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-25 22:49 ` Wes Groleau @ 2002-09-26 2:36 ` SteveD 2002-09-26 12:20 ` Marin David Condic 1 sibling, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: SteveD @ 2002-09-26 2:36 UTC (permalink / raw) "Wes Groleau" <wwgrol@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> wrote in message news:3D923D62.7404B7A5@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com... > > > Wes Groleau wrote: > > Forward this to the webmaster rather than the author. > > Never mind--guy next door sees it fine in both Opera and IE6. > Must be a Windows 2000 problem. I see it fine on IE6 with W2k. SteveD > -- > Wes Groleau > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-25 22:49 ` Wes Groleau 2002-09-26 2:36 ` SteveD @ 2002-09-26 12:20 ` Marin David Condic 1 sibling, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Marin David Condic @ 2002-09-26 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw) I had the same Netscape problem with NT-4.0 so it may be something else. Or maybe the webmaster got it fixed. Whatever it is, it ought to be changed to something a little less troublesome because you can't write a web page and insist the entire world upgrade to something else in order to read it. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Wes Groleau <wwgrol@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> wrote in message news:3D923D62.7404B7A5@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com... > > Never mind--guy next door sees it fine in both Opera and IE6. > Must be a Windows 2000 problem. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-25 22:21 ` Wes Groleau 2002-09-25 22:49 ` Wes Groleau @ 2002-09-26 4:23 ` Ted Dennison 2002-09-26 9:06 ` CodeMage 2002-09-26 11:24 ` Georg Bauhaus 1 sibling, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Ted Dennison @ 2002-09-26 4:23 UTC (permalink / raw) Wes Groleau wrote: > CodeMage wrote: >>If you are interested .... >>http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=IntroducingAda > > Forward this to the webmaster rather than the author. > > On Netscape 4.79, the nav sidebar sits on top of the article text. > > On Internet Explorer 6.0, the window is solid white--no text. It looks pretty nice on my Mozilla-Win2k setup. Rather than insist that things look great on my setup, I generally run pages with odd-looking output through the HTML validator. If there is an HTML error, I complain about the error(s) (along with the weirdness I see in my setup). If there isn't a error, then (aside from possible pathalogical style settings) I can assume the problem is with my browser. In this case, a run with http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crystalcode.com%2Fcodemage%2FMainMenu%2FCoding%2FAda%2FIntroducingAda.php&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline shows that this page is indeed invalid HTML. It doesn't even have a doctype tag, so the validator can't even begin to process it. If I guess that the author was shooting for HTML 4.01 transitional (generally the wisest choice for folk who don't even know about doctype tags), I get 150 errors. So this page does indeed appear to have big problems, and I would not be at all suprised to find that it renders quite differently on different brower/OS combos (depending on each brower's extension support and error recovery mechanisims, and perhaps lunar cycle). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 4:23 ` Ted Dennison @ 2002-09-26 9:06 ` CodeMage 2002-09-26 10:38 ` Preben Randhol 2002-09-26 11:24 ` Georg Bauhaus 1 sibling, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-09-26 9:06 UTC (permalink / raw) "Ted Dennison" <dennison@telepath.com> wrote in message news:3D928BE8.3030708@telepath.com... [snip] > So this page does indeed appear to have big problems, and I would not be > at all suprised to find that it renders quite differently on different > brower/OS combos (depending on each brower's extension support and error > recovery mechanisims, and perhaps lunar cycle). Hey, we've just started this new site :) Don't worry, check back in a week or less and everything will be fine! I would appreciate other OS/browser test results to improve the site even more. So far I have collected a number of constructive remarks that will be implemented before the week is over. CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 9:06 ` CodeMage @ 2002-09-26 10:38 ` Preben Randhol 2002-09-26 11:06 ` CodeMage 0 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-09-26 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:06:15 GMT, CodeMage wrote: > Don't worry, check back in a week or less and everything will be fine! I > would appreciate other OS/browser test results to improve the site even > more. So far I have collected a number of constructive remarks that will be > implemented before the week is over. Why does this site require javascript? When one uses browsers like: lynx, links and w3m on do not have javascript. Preben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 10:38 ` Preben Randhol @ 2002-09-26 11:06 ` CodeMage 2002-09-26 11:13 ` Preben Randhol ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-09-26 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw) "Preben Randhol" <randhol+news@pvv.org> wrote in message news:slrnap5osf.3h2.randhol+news@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no... [snip] > Why does this site require javascript? When one uses browsers like: > lynx, links and w3m on do not have javascript. It's a Utopia for every web designer to reach 100% compatibility and accessibility with all the different browsers out there unless the site serves plain text only and even then someone will complain that it doesn't fit on the screen of his/her WAP device :) If you use cascading stylesheets, somebody will not be able to view your site. If you use JavaScript, somebody will not be able to view your site. And so on and on... We do aim to get close to the 100% and therefore I have already started moving some functionality from client side scripts (e.g. JavaScript) to server side scripts (e.g. PHP). Furthermore, soon there will be a printer friendly (and I guess text browser friendly) version of every article currently published on the site. Remember, the site is being developed and shaped according to the wishes of the visitors, readers and members of the CodeMages Community. Kind regards, CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 11:06 ` CodeMage @ 2002-09-26 11:13 ` Preben Randhol 2002-09-26 11:39 ` CodeMage 2002-09-26 12:14 ` Samuel Tardieu ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-09-26 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:06:37 GMT, CodeMage wrote: > > > It's a Utopia for every web designer to reach 100% compatibility and > accessibility with all the different browsers out there unless the site > serves plain text only and even then someone will complain that it doesn't > fit on the screen of his/her WAP device :) > > If you use cascading stylesheets, somebody will not be able to view your > site. > If you use JavaScript, somebody will not be able to view your site. > And so on and on... Yes I don't say that you shouldn't use this things. I just say that there should be a reason for using it. So I was wondering what the javascript is used for as I can read the articles without problem in a javascript-less browser. :-) > We do aim to get close to the 100% and therefore I have already started > moving some functionality from client side scripts (e.g. JavaScript) to > server side scripts (e.g. PHP). Nice :-) > > Furthermore, soon there will be a printer friendly (and I guess text browser > friendly) version of every article currently published on the site. Nice :-) Preben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 11:13 ` Preben Randhol @ 2002-09-26 11:39 ` CodeMage 2002-09-27 11:40 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-09-26 11:39 UTC (permalink / raw) "Preben Randhol" <randhol+news@pvv.org> wrote in message news:slrnap5qv9.3h2.randhol+news@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no... [snip] > Yes I don't say that you shouldn't use this things. I just say that > there should be a reason for using it. So I was wondering what the > javascript is used for as I can read the articles without problem in a > javascript-less browser. :-) Ah! Thanks for letting me type that whole explanation first :P Actually, at the moment JavaScript is only used to display today's date and to implement jumps (redirects) to certain pages. I intend to write a replacement function in PHP to display today's date and to use proper HTTP redirects to replace the page jumps. Kind regards, CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 11:39 ` CodeMage @ 2002-09-27 11:40 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-09-27 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:39:52 GMT, CodeMage wrote: > Actually, at the moment JavaScript is only used to display today's date and http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.date.php Preben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 11:06 ` CodeMage 2002-09-26 11:13 ` Preben Randhol @ 2002-09-26 12:14 ` Samuel Tardieu 2002-09-26 20:16 ` CodeMage 2002-09-26 12:24 ` Larry Kilgallen 2002-10-01 21:08 ` Wes Groleau 3 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Samuel Tardieu @ 2002-09-26 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "codemage" == codemage <codemage@crystalcode.com> writes: codemage> If you use cascading stylesheets, somebody will not be able codemage> to view your site. What do you mean? Unless a browser is plain buggy and thinks it can interpret CSS while it can't, any conforming browser should be able to see a site using only HTML + CSS (in the worst case, CSS will be ignored). For example, as far as I know, any browser can read my CSS-enabled WWW site http://www.rfc1149.net/ Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 12:14 ` Samuel Tardieu @ 2002-09-26 20:16 ` CodeMage 2002-09-30 17:03 ` Mats Karlssohn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-09-26 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) "Samuel Tardieu" <sam@rfc1149.net> wrote in message news:87wup9j6bx.fsf@inf.enst.fr... > >>>>> "codemage" == codemage <codemage@crystalcode.com> writes: > > codemage> If you use cascading stylesheets, somebody will not be able > codemage> to view your site. > > What do you mean? Unless a browser is plain buggy and thinks it can > interpret CSS while it can't, any conforming browser should be able to > see a site using only HTML + CSS (in the worst case, CSS will be > ignored). Let me rephrase that: "If you use CSS, somebody will not be able to view your site the way it was intended." Just like using JavaScript or browser-dependent HTML tags: your site may look the way it was intended on 90% of the browsers used worldwide, but the remaining 10% might have JavaScript disabled or some other essential feature is missing from their configuration. Therefore, to increase the number of potential visitors who can view your site content correctly (the way that you intended) you need to decrease the amount of "fancy features". By the way, "conforming browser" is a contradictio in terminis :) You wouldn't believe the number of different browsers out there... it is for a good reason that web designers don't try to get the 100% compatibility and accessibility anymore: there's just too many different browsers conforming to as many different standards. CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 20:16 ` CodeMage @ 2002-09-30 17:03 ` Mats Karlssohn 2002-09-30 22:55 ` CodeMage 0 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Mats Karlssohn @ 2002-09-30 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw) CodeMage wrote: %< > Let me rephrase that: "If you use CSS, somebody will not be able to view > your site the way it was intended." Well "the way it was intended", that's really the problem, you provide the information and I'd like to be able to override the presentation attributes, like fonts/sizes, backgounds... The way I see it that's what HTML was designed to do, and it's still what it can do best. -- Mats Karlssohn, developer mailto:mats@mida.se Mida Systemutveckling AB http://www.mida.se Box 64, S-732 22 ARBOGA, SWEDEN Phone: +46-(0)589-89808 Fax: +46-(0)589-89809 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-30 17:03 ` Mats Karlssohn @ 2002-09-30 22:55 ` CodeMage 2002-09-30 23:02 ` CodeMage 2002-10-01 7:26 ` Fraser Wilson 0 siblings, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-09-30 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw) "Mats Karlssohn" <mats@mida.se> wrote in message news:3D9883F9.D0577D91@mida.se... > Well "the way it was intended", that's really the problem, you provide > the > information and I'd like to be able to override the presentation > attributes, > like fonts/sizes, backgounds... The way I see it that's what HTML was > designed to do, and it's still what it can do best. We do listen to all the constructive criticism we get :) We have presently implemented a number of improvements to the appearance of the site in general and to the appearance of the technical articles in particular. Every technical article now has a plain version which doesn't use CSS and allows the reader to modify the text size or colors in any way that s/he wants. The excellent "Introducing Ada" article written by Jim Rogers may now be viewed in the standard formatted version (http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=IntroducingAda) or in the plain version (click on the "Plain version" option at the top of the article) for improved readability. The direct URL for the plain version is: http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/PLAINIntroducingAda. php There is also a News Item on the site that explains what has been improved besides the above. CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-30 22:55 ` CodeMage @ 2002-09-30 23:02 ` CodeMage 2002-10-01 9:39 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-01 7:26 ` Fraser Wilson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-09-30 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw) > The direct URL for the plain version is: > http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/PLAINIntroducingAda. > php Drat! I hope that URL doesn't look like that in your news reader :( If it does, try this one: http://crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=PIntroducingAda CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-30 23:02 ` CodeMage @ 2002-10-01 9:39 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-01 11:38 ` CodeMage 0 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-01 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:02:00 GMT, CodeMage wrote: >> The direct URL for the plain version is: >> > http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/PLAINIntroducingAda. >> php > > Drat! I hope that URL doesn't look like that in your news reader :( > > If it does, try this one: > http://crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=PIntroducingAda Could you later when you have time make this page valid: http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/ It would be nice if it had a overview of the stuff concerning Ada. I mean it is easier to direct people to a static address on say a web-page. Preben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-01 9:39 ` Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-01 11:38 ` CodeMage 2002-10-01 13:17 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-10-01 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw) "Preben Randhol" <randhol+news@pvv.org> wrote in message news:slrnapiran.1dn.randhol+news@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no... [snip] > Could you later when you have time make this page valid: > > http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/ > > It would be nice if it had a overview of the stuff concerning Ada. I > mean it is easier to direct people to a static address on say a > web-page. How about this one: http://crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=Ada or, equivalently (but longer; might appear broken in your news reader): http://crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/Overview.php CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-01 11:38 ` CodeMage @ 2002-10-01 13:17 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-01 13:17 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-01 23:02 ` CodeMage 0 siblings, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-01 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 11:38:20 GMT, CodeMage wrote: > How about this one: > > http://crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=Ada I'm usually a bit weary about the links with ?... as they tend to be broken or the layout of the site has changed to f.ex: ?language=Ada etc... > or, equivalently (but longer; might appear broken in your news reader): > > http://crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/Overview.php This looks ok. What if you add Overview.php to DirectoryIndex in the apache config. Then one only need http://crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/ Preben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-01 13:17 ` Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-01 13:17 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-01 23:02 ` CodeMage 1 sibling, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-01 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC), Preben Randhol wrote: > I'm usually a bit weary about the links with ?... as they tend to be > broken or the layout of the site has changed to f.ex: ?language=Ada ^^^^^^ setup Preben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-01 13:17 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-01 13:17 ` Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-01 23:02 ` CodeMage 2002-10-02 9:34 ` Preben Randhol 1 sibling, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-10-01 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw) "Preben Randhol" <randhol+news@pvv.org> wrote in message news:slrnapj82k.1dn.randhol+news@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no... [snip] > What if you add Overview.php to DirectoryIndex in the apache config. > Then one only need > http://crystalcode.com/codemage/MainMenu/Coding/Ada/ Done... Phew, you are a demanding reader! ;-) Thanks to you there are now at least 3 ways to get an overview of the Ada articles on the site :) Don't write me if I suddenly move the whole site to a different domain or folder! :P CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-01 23:02 ` CodeMage @ 2002-10-02 9:34 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-02 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:02:55 GMT, CodeMage wrote: > Phew, you are a demanding reader! ;-) :-) > Thanks to you there are now at least 3 ways to get an overview of the Ada > articles on the site :) Thanks. > Don't write me if I suddenly move the whole site to a different domain or > folder! :P I guess you then can put up a symlink ;-) Preben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-30 22:55 ` CodeMage 2002-09-30 23:02 ` CodeMage @ 2002-10-01 7:26 ` Fraser Wilson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Fraser Wilson @ 2002-10-01 7:26 UTC (permalink / raw) "CodeMage" <codemage@crystalcode.com> writes: > We do listen to all the constructive criticism we get :) That's quite clear; and I'd just like to drop in and say how refreshing it is. While the web continues its transformation into a commercial mess, sites like yours remind what was good about it in the first place. So, well, cheers, love your work. Fraser. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 11:06 ` CodeMage 2002-09-26 11:13 ` Preben Randhol 2002-09-26 12:14 ` Samuel Tardieu @ 2002-09-26 12:24 ` Larry Kilgallen 2002-10-01 21:08 ` Wes Groleau 3 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2002-09-26 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <1TBk9.1131510$oa7.38447818@Flipper>, "CodeMage" <codemage@crystalcode.com> writes: > > "Preben Randhol" <randhol+news@pvv.org> wrote in message > news:slrnap5osf.3h2.randhol+news@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no... > [snip] >> Why does this site require javascript? When one uses browsers like: >> lynx, links and w3m on do not have javascript. > > It's a Utopia for every web designer to reach 100% compatibility and > accessibility with all the different browsers out there unless the site > serves plain text only and even then someone will complain that it doesn't > fit on the screen of his/her WAP device :) I recommend site designers start by checking against: http://validator.w3.org If it passes that test, we can go after the browser manufacturers. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 11:06 ` CodeMage ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2002-09-26 12:24 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 2002-10-01 21:08 ` Wes Groleau 3 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Wes Groleau @ 2002-10-01 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw) > If you use cascading stylesheets, somebody will not be able to view your > site. > If you use JavaScript, somebody will not be able to view your site. > And so on and on... If you use text, everybody will be able to view your site. Unfortunately, that also means that 50% will not read word one, because without blinking lights, it's obviously BORING! :-) Actually, I _do_ use cascading stylesheets, and my website is readable by Netscape 3, NS 4, NS 6, NS 7, IE 5, IE 6, Opera, OmniWeb, iCab, Lynx, and WebTV. On Mac, Solaris, and Windows. (Though there are occasional glitches) -- Wes Groleau http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-26 4:23 ` Ted Dennison 2002-09-26 9:06 ` CodeMage @ 2002-09-26 11:24 ` Georg Bauhaus 1 sibling, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2002-09-26 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw) Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com> wrote: : shows that this page is indeed invalid HTML. It doesn't even have a : doctype tag, so the validator can't even begin to process it. [...] : (generally the : wisest choice for folk who don't even know about doctype tags), I get : 150 errors. That's a doctype declaration, not a tag. :-) -- Georg ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-09-24 9:34 CodeMage 2002-09-25 22:21 ` Wes Groleau @ 2002-10-02 13:42 ` Daniel Dudley 2002-10-02 14:19 ` CodeMage 2002-10-02 23:55 ` Richard Riehle 1 sibling, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dudley @ 2002-10-02 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw) PDF-documents for downloading would be preferred. One may then read articles at ones leisure, and print them out! Daniel "CodeMage" <codemage@crystalcode.com> wrote in message news:XkWj9.1038479$oa7.35340112@Flipper... > Jim Rogers has written a thorough introduction to the Ada > programming language for the CodeMages Community web site, > illustrating Ada's syntax and features with a lot of > example code and by comparing Ada with better known > languages like C++ and Java. > > If you are interested to know more about this fascinating > language then read the complete article in the Coding | > Ada section of the CodeMages Community web site at: > http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=IntroducingAda > > We would love to get some feedback on this article (and > others) in the form of an e-mail to codemage@crystalcode.com > (which will be forwarded to the author) or in the form of a > discussion with the author and other members on the CodeMages > Community Forum. > > Also, our brand new developers community needs more serious > contributors like Jim who can write high quality technical > articles about software development or web design techniques. > For more information and other contribution possibilities > please write to codemage@crystalcode.com or visit the CodeMages > Community web site at http://www.crystalcode.com/codemage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-02 13:42 ` Daniel Dudley @ 2002-10-02 14:19 ` CodeMage 2002-10-02 16:20 ` Wes Groleau 2002-10-02 23:55 ` Richard Riehle 1 sibling, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-10-02 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw) "Daniel Dudley" <dudley@online.no> wrote in message news:rJCm9.28741$sR2.492620@news4.ulv.nextra.no... > PDF-documents for downloading would be preferred. One may > then read articles at ones leisure, and print them out! Maybe later. What's wrong with viewing HTML documents off-line (and printing them)? CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-02 14:19 ` CodeMage @ 2002-10-02 16:20 ` Wes Groleau 0 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Wes Groleau @ 2002-10-02 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw) CodeMage wrote: > Maybe later. What's wrong with viewing HTML documents off-line (and printing > them)? As you and others pointed out, HTML too often is not readable in some environments. Printing it can be even worse, especially when it's full of too much unnecessary "decoration." (Hint: CSS can help the printing problem, but can't cure it.) PDF is not immune to bugs, but it seems to get bit far less often. -- Wes Groleau http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-02 13:42 ` Daniel Dudley 2002-10-02 14:19 ` CodeMage @ 2002-10-02 23:55 ` Richard Riehle 2002-10-03 5:02 ` Jim Rogers 2002-10-03 15:07 ` Daniel Dudley 1 sibling, 2 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Richard Riehle @ 2002-10-02 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw) Daniel Dudley wrote: > PDF-documents for downloading would be preferred. One may > then read articles at ones leisure, and print them out! If you want a PDF document that describes Ada, you could download my little booklet, Ada Distilled, from www.adaic.org or www.adapower.com. Richard Riehle ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-02 23:55 ` Richard Riehle @ 2002-10-03 5:02 ` Jim Rogers 2002-10-03 15:10 ` Jerry Petrey 2002-10-03 15:07 ` Daniel Dudley 1 sibling, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Jim Rogers @ 2002-10-03 5:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Richard Riehle wrote: > Daniel Dudley wrote: > > >>PDF-documents for downloading would be preferred. One may >>then read articles at ones leisure, and print them out! >> > > If you want a PDF document that describes Ada, you could download > my little booklet, Ada Distilled, from www.adaic.org or > www.adapower.com. Yes, Ada Distilled is much more complete than my relatively small article on the CodeMages site. Jim Rogers ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-03 5:02 ` Jim Rogers @ 2002-10-03 15:10 ` Jerry Petrey 2002-10-05 6:31 ` Richard Riehle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Jerry Petrey @ 2002-10-03 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw) Jim Rogers wrote: > Richard Riehle wrote: > > > > > If you want a PDF document that describes Ada, you could download > > my little booklet, Ada Distilled, from www.adaic.org or > > www.adapower.com. > > Yes, Ada Distilled is much more complete than my relatively small > article on the CodeMages site. > > Jim Rogers Your article is outstanding, Jim! It is a great, concise introduction to Ada. Richard's is also extremely well done. I applaud both of you for helping to promote the language, especially at a time when so many outsiders think the language is dead. Hopefully, efforts like these will help more people C the beauty, power and safety of this language before we all drown in a C of errors. Jerry -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jerry Petrey -- Senior Principal Systems Engineer - Navigation (GPS/INS), Guidance, & Control -- Raytheon Missile Systems - Member Team Ada & Team Forth -- NOTE: please remove <NOSPAM> in email address to reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-03 15:10 ` Jerry Petrey @ 2002-10-05 6:31 ` Richard Riehle 0 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Richard Riehle @ 2002-10-05 6:31 UTC (permalink / raw) Jerry Petrey wrote: > Richard's is also extremely well done. I applaud both of you for helping > to promote the language, especially at a time when so many outsiders think > the language is dead. Hopefully, efforts like these will help more people C > the beauty, power and safety of this language before we all drown in a C of > errors. As a point of information, I am updating Ada Distilled (and correcting a few small errors that have been brought to my attention by diligent readers) with some additional examples. I hope to have the new version posted to adapower and adaic.org sometime in the November time frame. Meanwhile, my thanks to the many people who have been sending me notes, comments, and suggestions for the on-going updates. I am still going to strive to keep the book to around 100 pages. Richard Riehle ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-02 23:55 ` Richard Riehle 2002-10-03 5:02 ` Jim Rogers @ 2002-10-03 15:07 ` Daniel Dudley 2002-10-10 23:12 ` CodeMage 1 sibling, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dudley @ 2002-10-03 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw) "Richard Riehle" <richard@adaworks.com> wrote in message news:3D9B8769.B272BAC5@adaworks.com... > Daniel Dudley wrote: > > > PDF-documents for downloading would be preferred. One may > > then read articles at ones leisure, and print them out! > > If you want a PDF document that describes Ada, you could > download my little booklet, Ada Distilled, from > www.adaic.org or www.adapower.com. Richard, I did that a very long time ago -- many thanks. No, my message was meant as a general suggestion, ie. for all articles on the CodeMage. Daniel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-03 15:07 ` Daniel Dudley @ 2002-10-10 23:12 ` CodeMage 2002-10-11 10:34 ` Preben Randhol ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-10-10 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw) "Daniel Dudley" <dudley@online.no> wrote in message news:d3Zm9.25528$0p1.434463@news2.ulv.nextra.no... > "Richard Riehle" <richard@adaworks.com> wrote in > message news:3D9B8769.B272BAC5@adaworks.com... > > Daniel Dudley wrote: > > > > > PDF-documents for downloading would be preferred. One may > > > then read articles at ones leisure, and print them out! A PDF version (raw and zipped) is now available for some of the articles on the CodeMages Community site, including "Introducing Ada" by Jim Rogers. Download (or view) it by selecting the right option at the top of the article on the site, or directly from: http://crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=PDFAda Regards, CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-10 23:12 ` CodeMage @ 2002-10-11 10:34 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-11 16:12 ` Daniel Dudley 2002-10-15 16:34 ` Wes Groleau 2 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-11 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw) CodeMage wrote: > > A PDF version (raw and zipped) is now available for some of the articles on > the CodeMages Community site, including "Introducing Ada" by Jim Rogers. Excellent job! Keep up the good work! Preben -- Ada95 is good for you. http://libre.act-europe.fr/Software_Matters/02-C_pitfalls.pdf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-10 23:12 ` CodeMage 2002-10-11 10:34 ` Preben Randhol @ 2002-10-11 16:12 ` Daniel Dudley 2002-10-15 16:34 ` Wes Groleau 2 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dudley @ 2002-10-11 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) "CodeMage" <codemage@crystalcode.com> wrote in message news:7Pnp9.1685166$oa7.59702650@Flipper... > > "Daniel Dudley" <dudley@online.no> wrote in message > news:d3Zm9.25528$0p1.434463@news2.ulv.nextra.no... > > "Richard Riehle" <richard@adaworks.com> wrote in > > message news:3D9B8769.B272BAC5@adaworks.com... > > > Daniel Dudley wrote: > > > > > > > PDF-documents for downloading would be preferred. One may > > > > then read articles at ones leisure, and print them out! > > A PDF version (raw and zipped) is now available for some of the > articles on the CodeMages Community site, including "Introducing > Ada" by Jim Rogers. > > Download (or view) it by selecting the right option at the top of > the article on the site, or directly from: > http://crystalcode.com/codemage/goto.php?url=PDFAda Great! And much appreciated. If you want some help with adding bookmarks, links etc. to the PDF documents, I'll be pleased to help. Daniel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-10 23:12 ` CodeMage 2002-10-11 10:34 ` Preben Randhol 2002-10-11 16:12 ` Daniel Dudley @ 2002-10-15 16:34 ` Wes Groleau 2002-10-15 17:43 ` CodeMage 2 siblings, 1 reply; 41+ messages in thread From: Wes Groleau @ 2002-10-15 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw) CodeMage wrote: > A PDF version (raw and zipped) is now available for some of the articles on > the CodeMages Community site, including "Introducing Ada" by Jim Rogers. "raw" is a good description of it, unfortunately. Try to print a page or two.... -- Wes Groleau http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
* Re: [ARTICLE] Introducing the Ada programming language 2002-10-15 16:34 ` Wes Groleau @ 2002-10-15 17:43 ` CodeMage 0 siblings, 0 replies; 41+ messages in thread From: CodeMage @ 2002-10-15 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw) "Wes Groleau" <wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote in message news:3DAC437C.934C7BCE@despammed.com... > > CodeMage wrote: > > A PDF version (raw and zipped) is now available for some of the articles on > > the CodeMages Community site, including "Introducing Ada" by Jim Rogers. > > "raw" is a good description of it, unfortunately. > Try to print a page or two.... I have printed more than a page or two and I see no problem with it... CodeMage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 41+ messages in thread
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