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From: Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: Beginer problem: variable array size
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 03:34:18 GMT
Date: 2002-09-22T03:34:18+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D8D3A5B.8020702@telepath.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1032544053.616510@master.nyc.kbcfp.com

Hyman Rosen wrote:
> Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote:
> 
>> The C++ STL for example,
>> would (I assume) not cut it for many/most realtime systems because of
>> the amount of dynamic memory assignments that take place behind the
>> scenes in the STL routines
> 
> 
> The amount of memory allocation in the STL is predictable.

Well, no. Its suggested that certian structures not allocate memory 
under certian cirucumstances (eg: Vectors aren't supposed to allocate 
memory during the rest of their runtime if you reserve a certian size up 
front and don't exceed those bounds). But there is no *requirement* that 
any STL template actually works that way. If you care, you really have 
to verify this with your vendor, or decipher the templates to see for 
yourself (good luck!)

To make matters worse, the C++ compilers in the most common use by far, 
Microsoft's Visual C++ 6 and below, use a version of the STL that is 
pre-standard. Those compilers also don't support automatic instantiation 
properly. So many "standard" source code examples won't work on most C++ 
compilers.

> 
>> Bottom line: The C++ programmer likes to criticize the Ada world
> 
> 
> The C++ programmer ignores the Ada world, I'm afraid.

...not to mention their own standard.







  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-22  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-15 14:53 Beginer problem: variable array size Nacho
2002-09-15 16:45 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-15 16:16   ` Nacho
2002-09-15 16:26     ` Ludovic Brenta
2002-09-15 17:46     ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-09-15 18:27     ` Pascal Obry
2002-09-15 20:03     ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-17 14:22     ` Ted Dennison
2002-09-18 11:53       ` Marin David Condic
2002-10-02 15:08         ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-03 12:17           ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-19  0:43     ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-19  1:25       ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-09-19 14:17       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-20  3:06       ` Munch
2002-09-20  4:49         ` Jim Rogers
2002-09-20  6:35         ` tmoran
2002-09-20 16:00           ` Pat Rogers
2002-09-20 16:07             ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-20 20:15               ` Pat Rogers
2002-09-20 12:11         ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-20 13:59           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-20 14:55             ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-20 16:10               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-20 16:31               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-24 12:41                 ` Thomas Dickey
2002-09-21 10:44               ` Thomas Dickey
2002-09-23 13:37                 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-22 13:00               ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-26  3:37                 ` Kevin Cline
2002-09-26 12:42                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-22 12:49             ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-20 16:28           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-20 17:49             ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-21  7:30               ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-23 13:41                 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-22  3:34               ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2002-09-22 13:18             ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-24 16:55               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-25 12:06                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-21 22:23           ` tmoran
2002-09-23 13:53             ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 15:19               ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-23 16:00                 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 17:09               ` tmoran
2002-09-23 18:18                 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 19:53                   ` tmoran
2002-09-23 20:32                     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 20:10                 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-09-23 23:09                   ` tmoran
2002-09-24  2:33                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-09-24 12:36               ` Marin David Condic
2002-10-02 15:13       ` Matthew Heaney
2002-09-19 20:25     ` Brian Gaffney
2002-09-17 10:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-02 15:04 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-02 16:26   ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-02 19:53     ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-03 12:31       ` Marin David Condic
2002-10-03 15:15         ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-21 23:38           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-22 14:11     ` Matthew Heaney
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