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From: Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: stupid question: how can I finish a program?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:30:18 GMT
Date: 2002-08-28T22:30:18+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6D4F44.4872BCFA@san.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccu1letygv.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com

Robert A Duff wrote:
> 
> Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com> writes:
> 
> > Robert A Duff wrote:
> > > If you're running under a proper operating system, then all resources
> > > visible outside the program will be cleaned up when the program exits.
> >
> > This is true only in the most trivial sense. If I have a program that
> > contacts a license manager (for example) and grabs the license, then aborts,
> > I could be in trouble. That's why license managers check for that sort of
> > failure.
> 
> So if it's checked for, what's the problem?

Well, it isn't the OS doing it.

> The OS has to recover from those nasties
> without leaking resources. 

It doesn't recover from those nasties without leaking resources.

> So surely calling "exit" is no worse.

Correct. I'm not arguing that you shouldn't have "exit". I'm merely saying
that "the OS cleans up all externally-visible resources" is an
oversimplification.
 
> I don't know Amiga, but it seems to me that if a crashed program causes
> memory leaks, the OS is broken.

No more than "a crashed program might leave half-written temp files around"
is "broken".
 
> > So no, in general, a "proper" operating system doesn't clean up all visible
> > resources. Not even with exit() calls. :-)
> 
> I guess it depends on what "proper" OS means.  I'm assuming hardware
> memory protection, and an OS that takes advantage of that to reclaim
> resources from crashed processes.

I think it more depends on what you mean by "resources". I've worked on OSes
where you had "temp files" that went away when you logged out. UNIX doesn't
have that. Are junk-files in /tmp a "resource leak" the OS should clean up?

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-28 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2002-08-13 14:37 ` stupid question: how can I finish a program? chris.danx
2002-08-13 23:53   ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14  2:07     ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14  5:53       ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14 13:30         ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14 13:56       ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 15:58         ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 19:18       ` Simon Wright
2002-08-15 14:02         ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-15  1:47       ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-15  5:14         ` Michael Bode
2002-08-17 14:28           ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-08-15  5:17         ` tmoran
2002-08-15 18:41           ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 13:53     ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-15 17:39       ` tmoran
2002-08-16 13:46         ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 14:26           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-22 19:16           ` tmoran
2002-08-22 20:54             ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-25  2:22       ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-26 15:59         ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-27 21:59         ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 20:40           ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-28 13:59             ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 16:55               ` Darren New
2002-08-28 18:36                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-28 22:22                 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 22:30                   ` Darren New [this message]
2002-08-28 23:16                     ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 16:49                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:55                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 19:17                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-30  8:09                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-08-31 20:39                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 16:35                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-08-29 22:48               ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 15:18                 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30  4:29                   ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:53                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 19:03                     ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-29 19:25                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 20:42                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 20:22                         ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30 20:59                           ` Simon Wright
2002-08-28 14:33             ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-28 22:15               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 15:30                 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 22:16               ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 13:17                 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-29 19:32                   ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-31  2:40                   ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-31  0:10                     ` Toshitaka Kumano
2002-09-02 21:02                       ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:59                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:26                   ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-13 14:38 ` David C. Hoos
2002-08-13 20:08   ` Adam Beneschan
2002-08-14  6:41 ` Emil Moholth
2002-08-14 14:00   ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-14  7:37 ` Martin Dowie
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