From: John Kern <jkern3@NOSPAM.visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Faulty languages and Liability
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:47:44 -0400
Date: 2002-06-19T11:47:44-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D10A7A0.376A5F45@NOSPAM.visteon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9l1yXnVJaOCo@eisner.encompasserve.org
Larry Kilgallen wrote:
> In a real court case, issues of compiler validation would likely not
> have any bearing unless it can be shown the compiler in question made
> an error that would have been caught by a validated compiler.
I once heard from one of my professors that they preferred to take
testimony from only engineers certified Professional Engineers. If I
were on a jury and someone told me that they used a "Validated"
compiler, I think I would think more highly of it than otherwise, even
if I didn't know what it meant.
Wouldn't your argument also hold that if a language in question allowed
an error that would have been caught by another language?
If a field of endeavor establishes an industry "best practice" say for
eliminating errors in embedded software, (say MISRA C coding standards),
I think a supplier is at risk for deviating. If we could only prove
that Ada programs are intrinsically safer than C programs.
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-16 2:10 Faulty languages and Liability David Botton
2002-06-16 3:18 ` Lyle McKennot
2002-06-16 4:58 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-16 4:58 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-16 11:52 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-16 13:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-17 14:56 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-18 5:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-18 13:35 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-06-18 14:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-18 19:25 ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-19 17:18 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-06-19 19:31 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-19 17:57 ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-16 14:33 ` David Botton
2002-06-16 18:28 ` Mike Silva
2002-06-17 0:48 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-17 4:09 ` David Botton
2002-06-17 12:59 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-17 7:04 ` Mike Silva
2002-06-17 8:29 ` AG
2002-06-17 13:21 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-17 14:37 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-17 3:16 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-17 13:36 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-17 14:51 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-17 14:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-17 15:55 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-17 16:29 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-18 5:18 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-18 13:10 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-18 21:27 ` Robert A Duff
2002-06-18 20:02 ` John Kern
2002-06-18 22:17 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-19 15:47 ` John Kern [this message]
2002-06-19 18:06 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-17 16:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-18 19:29 ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-19 12:58 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-17 19:00 ` Mike Silva
2002-06-17 20:27 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-17 21:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-18 1:09 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-06-18 4:52 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-18 13:49 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-06-18 14:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-19 12:35 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-19 14:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-20 13:50 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-20 16:53 ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-20 18:56 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-20 15:21 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-21 17:21 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2002-06-21 22:00 ` Robert A Duff
2002-06-23 4:50 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-23 9:13 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2002-06-23 10:29 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-23 13:21 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2002-06-23 18:24 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-23 19:27 ` Pat Rogers
2002-06-24 2:50 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-24 14:05 ` Pat Rogers
2002-06-18 6:14 ` Mike Silva
2002-06-18 8:53 ` newsfraser
2002-06-18 19:33 ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-18 12:49 ` Steve O'Neill
2002-06-18 13:49 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-17 19:00 ` Mike Silva
2002-06-17 20:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-18 3:45 ` Mike Silva
2002-06-18 15:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-18 15:54 ` chris.danx
2002-06-18 18:01 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-18 17:12 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-17 7:34 ` AG
2002-06-18 21:17 ` Robert A Duff
2002-06-16 22:26 ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-17 14:38 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-18 8:57 ` chris.danx
2002-06-19 0:34 ` tmoran
2002-06-19 20:28 ` Mike Silva
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