recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Norberto De Oliveira]

Bonjour,
Je recherche un lien vers un site web pour obtenir les standards
MIL-STD-2167A et la DO178b, assez utilis�e dans l'a�rien, avec des
d�veloppements en Ada.

Merci d'avance

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Preben Randhol]

On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:39:42 +0200, Norberto De Oliveira wrote:
> 
> Bonjour,
> Je recherche un lien vers un site web pour obtenir les standards
> MIL-STD-2167A et la DO178b, assez utilis�e dans l'a�rien, avec des
> d�veloppements en Ada.

Hei p� deg ;-)

You have to use English here at comp.lang.ada. If you prefer french then
you must use the French news groups. I'm not sure but i believe it is
called: fr.comp.lang.ada or something similar.

Preben Randhol

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[tmoran]

>You have to use English here at comp.lang.ada.
  You don't "have to" use anything.  You will probably get more
helpful responses with English, however.

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Preben Randhol]

On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 17:45:36 GMT, tmoran@acm.org wrote:
>>You have to use English here at comp.lang.ada.
>   You don't "have to" use anything.  You will probably get more
> helpful responses with English, however.

� det visste jeg ikke da kan jeg jo snakke norsk her s� mye jeg vil?
Kanskje litt kjedelig i lengden dog.

Preben

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Jacob Sparre Andersen]

Preben Randhol skrev:

> On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 17:45:36 GMT, tmoran@acm.org wrote:
> >>You have to use English here at comp.lang.ada.
> >   You don't "have to" use anything.  You will probably get more
> > helpful responses with English, however.
> 
> � det visste jeg ikke da kan jeg jo snakke norsk her s� mye jeg vil?

Ja, men som han ogs� skrev, s� giver det ikke n�dvendigvis
helt s� mange brugbare svar.

> Kanskje litt kjedelig i lengden dog.

Det er da altid godt med lidt afveksling. ;-)

Jacob
-- 
"simply because no one had discovered a cure for the
universe as a
 whole - or rather the only one that did exist had been
abolished"

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[AG]

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"Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@nbi.dk> wrote in message
news:3D03B3A0.2821C46E@nbi.dk...
> Preben Randhol skrev:
>
> > On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 17:45:36 GMT, tmoran@acm.org wrote:
> > >>You have to use English here at comp.lang.ada.
> > >   You don't "have to" use anything.  You will probably get more
> > > helpful responses with English, however.
> >
> > � det visste jeg ikke da kan jeg jo snakke norsk her s� mye jeg vil?
>
> Ja, men som han ogs� skrev, s� giver det ikke n�dvendigvis
> helt s� mange brugbare svar.
>
> > Kanskje litt kjedelig i lengden dog.
>
> Det er da altid godt med lidt afveksling. ;-)
>
> Jacob

Oh no, the Vikings are coming ...

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Preben Randhol]

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:29:09 +1200, AG wrote:
> 
> "Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@nbi.dk> wrote in message
> news:3D03B3A0.2821C46E@nbi.dk...
>> Preben Randhol skrev:
>> > � det visste jeg ikke da kan jeg jo snakke norsk her s� mye jeg vil?
>>
>> Ja, men som han ogs� skrev, s� giver det ikke n�dvendigvis
>> helt s� mange brugbare svar.
>>
>> > Kanskje litt kjedelig i lengden dog.
>>
>> Det er da altid godt med lidt afveksling. ;-)
>>
>> Jacob
> 
> Oh no, the Vikings are coming ...

Yes and our navigation system and ships are using Ada so we'll be down
under in now time. *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR*

;-) heheheh

Preben

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Georg Bauhaus]

AG <a_n_g@x_t_r_a.c_o.n_z> wrote:
: 
: Oh no, the Vikings are coming ...

As long as they talk so nicely, almost comprehensible...
Reminds me of chief Haegar. :-/

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Dr. Michael Paus]

Norberto De Oliveira wrote:
> Bonjour,
> Je recherche un lien vers un site web pour obtenir les standards
> MIL-STD-2167A et la DO178b, assez utilis�e dans l'a�rien, avec des
> d�veloppements en Ada.

May I humbly ask how you want to read these documents if you cannot
even ask for them in English, or do you expect everybody to know
every language on this planet? I for my part think that one mother
tongue plus English as the least common denominator for international
communication is enough :-)

Michael

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[AG]

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"Dr. Michael Paus" <paus@ib-paus.com> wrote in message
news:3D0210DC.4090206@ib-paus.com...
> Norberto De Oliveira wrote:
> > Bonjour,
> > Je recherche un lien vers un site web pour obtenir les standards
> > MIL-STD-2167A et la DO178b, assez utilis�e dans l'a�rien, avec des
> > d�veloppements en Ada.
>
> May I humbly ask how you want to read these documents if you cannot
> even ask for them in English

Well, even though I wasn't the original poster I guess I can answer that:
I could easily read the question but I would have tons of trouble trying to
write it in a correct French on my own:) It's always way easier to read &
understand what's already written in a correct version than trying to do it
from scratch in a foreign language.

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[AG]

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"AG" <a_n_g@x_t_r_a.c_o.n_z> wrote in message
news:aGXM8.1989$iR2.238098@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Dr. Michael Paus" <paus@ib-paus.com> wrote in message
> news:3D0210DC.4090206@ib-paus.com...
> > Norberto De Oliveira wrote:
> > > Bonjour,
> > > Je recherche un lien vers un site web pour obtenir les standards
> > > MIL-STD-2167A et la DO178b, assez utilis�e dans l'a�rien, avec des
> > > d�veloppements en Ada.
> >
> > May I humbly ask how you want to read these documents if you cannot
> > even ask for them in English
>
> Well, even though I wasn't the original poster I guess I can answer that:
> I could easily read the question but I would have tons of trouble trying
to
> write it in a correct French on my own:) It's always way easier to read &
> understand what's already written in a correct version than trying to do
it
> from scratch in a foreign language.
>

And besides, unless you could understand the original question, how did
you know there was any "read" operation involved? [Sorry for the re-post
but I couldn't resist it:)]

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[David C. Hoos, Sr.]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Norberto De Oliveira" <norberto.deoliveira@worldonline.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>
Sent: June 08, 2002 6:39 AM
Subject: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a


>
> Bonjour,
> Je recherche un lien vers un site web pour obtenir les standards
> MIL-STD-2167A et la DO178b, assez utilis�e dans l'a�rien, avec des
> d�veloppements en Ada.
>
MIL-STD-2167A was renamed DOD-STD-2167A, and then eight years ago
was superseded by MIL-STD-498 to which a link is found at
http://www.abelia.com/498pdf/498-STD.PDF

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Simon Wright]

"David C. Hoos, Sr." <david.c.hoos.sr@ada95.com> writes:

> MIL-STD-2167A was renamed DOD-STD-2167A, and then eight years ago
> was superseded by MIL-STD-498 to which a link is found at
> http://www.abelia.com/498pdf/498-STD.PDF

Or my HTML version at http://www.pushface.org/mil_498.html

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Dr. Michael Paus]

Simon Wright wrote:
> "David C. Hoos, Sr." <david.c.hoos.sr@ada95.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>MIL-STD-2167A was renamed DOD-STD-2167A, and then eight years ago
>>was superseded by MIL-STD-498 to which a link is found at
>>http://www.abelia.com/498pdf/498-STD.PDF
> 
> 
> Or my HTML version at http://www.pushface.org/mil_498.html

Which is by now also outdated. See note below. Sometimes I have the
impression that references to these standards are copied from one
project to the next until someone really tries to find and read them :-)

Michael

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Notice of
       Cancellation
                                      IEEE/EIA 12207 Standard for
                                      Software Life Cycle Processing

MIL-STD-498

Notice 1

May 27, 1998


       MIL-STD-498, dated 5 December 1994 has been cancelled as of May 27, 1998. Information regarding software development and
       documentation is now contained in IEEE/EIA 12207, "Information Technology-Software Life Cycle Processes." The most reliable 
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Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[Simon Wright]

"Dr. Michael Paus" <paus@ib-paus.com> writes:

> Simon Wright wrote:

> > Or my HTML version at http://www.pushface.org/mil_498.html
> 
> Which is by now also outdated. See note below. Sometimes I have the
> impression that references to these standards are copied from one
> project to the next until someone really tries to find and read them
> :-)

Perhaps you didn't read to the end of the page. I say

   FAQ

   Hasn't MIL-STD-498 been cancelled?

       The position is that the DoD no longer want to fund standards
       such as 498 (it was always a bit of a stopgap). They now use
       IEEE 12207.

       None the less, there are still people (eg, prime contractors
       for UK MoD projects) who stick with 498, for various reasons:

          498 is freely accessible electronically -- the IEEE
          standards aren't, they get income from sale of standards
          documents
        
          498 comes with DIDs, the IEEE standard doesn't 
        
          There's not a very great deal of difference between the
          standards anyway (I can't vouch for that one!)

   (The last of those is pretty suspect. A 498 project would fit
   fairly well under the IEEE standard, but not vice versa, since the
   IEEE one is much less prescriptive).

Re: recherche de document MIL-STD-2167a

[David Marceau]

Norberto De Oliveira wrote:
> Je recherche un lien vers un site web pour obtenir les standards
> MIL-STD-2167A
http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/fulcrum_main.pl?database=DODISS&search.DOC_TEXT=DOD-STD-2167A&search.DODISS_ID.TEXT=&display.DODISS_ID=on&search.TITLE.TEXT=&display.TITLE=on&search.DOC_DATE.GTEDATE=&search.DOC_DATE.LTEDATE=&display.DOC_DATE=on&search.STATUS.TEXT=&search.PREP_ACT.TEXT=&search.FSC_CODE.TEXT=&secondorderby=&fuzzy=0&numrecords=25

> DO178b, assez utilis�e dans l'a�rien, avec des
> d�veloppements en Ada.
http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/fulcrum_main.pl?database=DODISS&search.DOC_TEXT=avionic&search.DODISS_ID.TEXT=&display.DODISS_ID=on&search.TITLE.TEXT=&display.TITLE=on&search.DOC_DATE.GTEDATE=&search.DOC_DATE.LTEDATE=&display.DOC_DATE=on&search.STATUS.TEXT=&search.PREP_ACT.TEXT=&search.FSC_CODE.TEXT=&secondorderby=&fuzzy=0&numrecords=25

Sant� bonheur,
David Marceau