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From: Jim Rogers <jimmaureenrogers@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Commercial C To Ada 95 compiler
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 03:59:07 GMT
Date: 2002-06-08T03:59:07+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D018106.6080004@worldnet.att.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: XIeM8.136874$ux5.183535@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net

SteveD wrote:

> "Wes Groleau" <wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:3D0116F3.7254E263@despammed.com...
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>A direct translation to Ada will reveal
>>some bugs at compile time.  And the developers
>>are looking at a language they can read
>>when they fix those bugs.
>>
> 
> I disagree.  A direct translation to Ada should not reveal any bugs at
> compile time.  In fact it should replicate memory leaks and errant pointers.
> If it doesn't do so, it is not a direct translation.


You may be very wrong here. Ada compilers tend to identify many more
errors at compile time than C compilers. This means that code
which compiles without error on a C compiler, when directly translated
to Ada, will may not compile.

One simple example is indexing past the end of an array.
C compilers simply will not catch this problem. Ada compilers will.

On the whole, direct translation may not be possible. C uses
implicit conversion between integer and floating point types.
Ada provides no such implicit conversion. You will at least need
to make all implicit C conversions explicit in Ada.

Another incompatibility is trying to reference the control
variable in a "for" loop outside the scope of the "for" loop.
This is impossible in Ada and not uncommon in C. The C compiler
will allow this. The Ada compiler will not.

Your example of "direct" translation of a C for loop with a null
body to an Ada while loop is a good approximation of the problem,
but not, IMHO, a direct translation. A direct translation would have
the C code also using a while loop. Ada for loops simply cannot
demonstrate this error. Any attempt to do so will create a
compiler error.

Jim Rogers




  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-08  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-03  9:26 Commercial C To Ada 95 compiler Henrik Quintel
2002-06-03 18:52 ` Ingo Marks
2002-06-04  6:40   ` Henrik Quintel
2002-06-04 14:11     ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-06-04 14:26       ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-04 16:38         ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-06-03 20:26 ` Florian Weimer
2002-06-04  6:43   ` Henrik Quintel
2002-06-04 14:18     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-06-07  3:48 ` Richard Riehle
2002-06-07 12:46   ` SteveD
2002-06-07 13:20     ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-09 21:43       ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-10 13:17         ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-11 12:52           ` SteveD
2002-06-11 13:32             ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-12 14:07               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-12 13:21                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-07 13:21   ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-07 19:48     ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-07 20:26       ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-08  3:19         ` SteveD
2002-06-08  3:59           ` Jim Rogers [this message]
2002-06-08  4:14             ` Darren New
2002-06-08  4:50               ` SteveD
2002-06-08 12:04                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-06-10 18:44               ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-10 19:23                 ` Darren New
2002-06-10 20:55                   ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-10 21:03                     ` Darren New
2002-06-08  4:46             ` SteveD
2002-06-08 12:11               ` Robert Dewar
2002-06-08 18:46                 ` SteveD
2002-06-10 13:34                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-11 16:38                     ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-11 17:27                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-12 13:18                         ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-10 18:47               ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-10 21:23                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-06-10 20:59                   ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-10 21:37                     ` Robert A Duff
2002-06-10 22:34                       ` Wes Groleau
2002-06-08 12:06             ` Robert Dewar
2002-06-08 15:53             ` Richard Riehle
2002-06-08 15:58               ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-10 13:37                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-10 23:32                   ` Darren New
2002-06-11 13:11                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-12 15:42                       ` Darren New
2002-06-21 17:23                         ` David Thompson
2002-06-08 17:45               ` tmoran
2002-06-08 18:32               ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-09 17:41                 ` Richard Riehle
2002-06-10  8:11                   ` Fraser Wilson
2002-06-08 20:06               ` Jim Rogers
2002-06-09 17:49                 ` Richard Riehle
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