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From: David Rasmussen <david.rasmussen@gmx.spam.egg.sausage.and.spam.net>
Subject: Re: Ada Compilers
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 00:12:35 +0200
Date: 2002-05-18T00:12:35+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE58053.2020809@gmx.spam.egg.sausage.and.spam.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ac0bem$g6n$1@nh.pace.co.uk

Marin David Condic wrote:
> True, but misleading. GNAT and GNU C/C++ may all share the same back end &
> hence produce similar code for similar input programs, but that in no way
> says anything about how good the code is compared to some other compiler
> that works for either Ada, C or C++. Its theoretically possible that the gcc
> backend might generate really crappy code and hence Ada and C++ are equally
> bad. What does that tell you about the relative efficiency of Ada or C++?
> 
> This is why its totally useless to ask the question "How does Ada compare
> against C++ for efficiency...?" The best we can answer is that the Ada
> standard doesn't impose anything that is inherently inefficient for the
> semantic content delivered and the rest is a matter of comparing one
> compiler against another. There are efficient implementations of both Ada
> and C++. There are also bad implementations of both languages. We *really*
> need to educate developers (who *should* know this by the time they leave
> college!) that languages aren't "slow" - only implementations are.
> 

I know that, of course. My question was of a more pragmatic nature. Most 
languages (ML, Lisp, Java etc.) could have compilers that created as 
good code on a given platform (say x86), as the best C compilers for the 
same platform. But in real life, this is not at all the case. So my 
question was if, in practice, most Ada compilers generate code that is 
comparable to, say, C++ compilers. The question makes a lot of pragmatic 
sense.

/David




  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-17 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-15 18:55 Ada Compilers David Rasmussen
2002-05-15 19:32 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-15 20:45 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-05-15 21:00   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-15 21:38   ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-15 22:35     ` Kai Schuelke
2002-05-16 10:27       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-16 10:37       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-16 13:51         ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-16 15:06       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-17  1:22         ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-17 14:56           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-17  1:23         ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-16 16:59       ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-16 18:50         ` Kai Schuelke
2002-05-17  1:19           ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-17 13:38         ` [off-topic] "free" Wes Groleau
2002-05-17 14:51           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-16 15:03   ` Ada Compilers Fraser Wilson
2002-05-16 15:19     ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-16  1:07 ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-16 13:16   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17 22:12     ` David Rasmussen [this message]
2002-05-19 21:14       ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-05-20 13:28       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-21 21:31         ` Greg Bek
2002-05-22  1:47           ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-22 13:52           ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-23 11:01             ` John R. Strohm
2002-05-23 13:29               ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-23 15:50               ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-23 16:39               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-16  2:09 ` Steve Doiel
2002-05-16 10:33 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-16 10:34   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-16 11:25   ` David Rasmussen
2002-05-16 12:31     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-16 13:25       ` David Rasmussen
2002-05-16 13:42         ` Steve Doiel
2002-05-16 14:37           ` David Rasmussen
2002-05-16 19:12         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-17 15:08         ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-16 13:30       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17  8:51         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-16 17:03   ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-17 15:11     ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-17 16:25       ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-18  7:07         ` Simon Wright
2002-05-18  7:57           ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-19  2:50         ` David Botton
2002-05-17 17:40       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-18 10:44       ` Jerry van Dijk
2002-05-20 16:55         ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-20 18:47           ` Jerry van Dijk
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2012-11-24 15:55 Ada compilers arkavae
2012-11-24 18:56 ` Niklas Holsti
2012-11-24 18:57 ` Gautier write-only
2005-06-03 18:55 ADA compilers Patty
2005-06-03 19:04 ` Pascal Obry
2005-06-03 19:12 ` Patty
2005-06-03 19:21   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-03 20:37     ` Björn Lundin
2005-06-03 20:25   ` Jeff C
2005-06-03 20:31   ` Keith Thompson
2005-06-03 20:36   ` Björn Lundin
2005-06-04  5:29   ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-06-04  6:32 ` Martin Krischik
2002-05-20 17:39 Ada Compilers David Humphris
     [not found] <mailman.1021886521.4259.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>
2002-05-20 16:46 ` Ted Dennison
1997-11-13  0:00 Nathan A. Barclay
1997-11-13  0:00 ` bklungle
1996-06-16  0:00 ADA Compilers A REILLY
1996-06-18  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1993-03-14 12:34 Ada Compilers David Leslie Garrard
1991-04-19 15:22 ADA COMPILERS douglassalter@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu,
1990-01-17 18:49 ADA compilers John Ostlund
1989-11-15 23:18 Ada Promises Doug Schmidt
1989-11-16 22:45 ` Ada compilers William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
     [not found] <1989Sep <3161@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>
1989-09-29 13:47 ` Ada Compilers Robert Cousins
1989-09-15 20:35 Kelvin W. Edwards
1989-04-11 17:01 ada compilers Kjartan R. Gudmundsson
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