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From: "Robert R. Beaver" <beaveroregon@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: [OT] Gnat cross compiling FreeBSD to Win32 ?
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:38:40 -0700
Date: 2002-05-14T20:38:40-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE1D840.9060502@qwest.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: u4rhatq4b.fsf@gsfc.nasa.gov

Stephen Leake wrote:
> Preben Randhol <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> writes:
> 
> 
>>On 14 May 2002 12:55:09 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I want a _stable_ system, not a _testing_ system. Windows NT is
>>>a _stable_ system.
>>>
>>Debian testing is _stable_ now. I've been using it for 1 year.
>>
> 
> Well, apparently "the Debian committee", whoever that is, disagrees
> with you; the name is still "testing"!
> 
> 
>>>for my taste. The binary install from ACT was much simpler, just
>>>not quite as simple as the Windows version.
>>>
>>Though it may be simple, you must still recompile all your libraries
>>like libgtkada asis etc... 
>>
> 
> True, but irrelevant. Are you implying that 'apt-get install gnat'
> will also update gtkada? I hope not!
> 
> 
>>>Neither apt-get nor dselect is as 'user-friendly' as Install
>>>Shield when it comes to customizing an installation.
>>>
>>Please explain.
>>
> 
> Well, when was the last time you used Install Shield? On a good
> package, it gives you choices about where to install it, which
> optional sub-packages to install, which language to use, which help
> file formats to install, etc.
> 
> Debian apt-get gives no choice for any of these.
> 
> 
>>>I'll stick to Debian stable, thank you!
>>>
>>Well Testing will catch up with you in short time. Actually it was
>>sceduled for release 1 May, but was delayed.
>>
> 
> Ok, I'll get it when it comes out.
> 
> 
>>>Ok. So I have to remember "apt-get" instead of "dselect". And I'm
>>>
>>If you have such a bad memory I'm surprised you manage to code in the
>>first place. ;-) I don't buy it. But then use gnome-apt or some other
>>graphical frontend. 
>>
> 
> Ok. That was my point; in Windows, you have a standard graphical front
> end that makes it fairly easy to find things that you want to install;
> just look in your "downloads" directory, and select the file you want.
> If I use command-line 'apt-get', there is no such list. If you had
> started this by saying "use gnome-apt", rather than by saying "use
> apt-get", I'd be more sympathetic.
> 
> 
>>Sorry but I have dealt with Debian and windows for years now and
>>Debian proves time and time again to be much more easy.
>>
> 
> I agree; for the work I really want to do, Debian is better. For
> installing packages like Myst and Quicken, Windows (more precisely
> Install Shield) is better (and not just because they don't exist for
> Linux!).
> 
> 
>>When I got my new laptop at work I had a Debian system up and
>>running with *all* packages I had on my desktop system in 55 min and
>>*one* reboot. Installing Windows took 3 hours (mainly due to network
>>driver problems) and then I had to start installing the software
>>which took about 5 hours and I guess about 15-20 reboots.
>>
> 
> Did you end up with the _same_ set of application software on each
> system? I suspect not! 
> 
> You also got lucky with Debian; there are far more network driver
> cards supported by Windows than by Debian.
> 
> 
I Didn't mean to turn this news group int in to a OS flame war.
I would like to see ithis thread get back on track of the problem of 
cross compiling. If we can resolve that, then it would benefit UNIX and 
Windows alike. I will Try to keep my OS BIOS out of the picture.





  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-15  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-03  3:11 Gnat cross compiling FreeBSD to Win32 ? Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-03  8:57 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-04 16:12   ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-09 16:14   ` David Brown
2002-05-11 15:19     ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-11 18:17       ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-11 20:21         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-12  1:09           ` DPH
2002-05-12  9:50             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 12:56               ` Dave Head
2002-05-12  8:30           ` [OT] " Pascal Obry
2002-05-12  9:20             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-12 10:29               ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-13 14:33             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14  3:51               ` James Ross
2002-05-14  8:14                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 15:04                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 15:38                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 16:55                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 17:28                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 17:57                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 20:45                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-15  3:38                             ` Robert R. Beaver [this message]
2002-05-14 10:02                 ` Ingo Marks
2002-05-14 17:06                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 14:13                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-14 15:22                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-14 14:50                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 18:32                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 18:40                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-15  2:18                     ` James Ross
2002-05-15 15:32                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 14:20                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 18:55                 ` Darren New
2002-05-14 19:37                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-15 21:24                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 14:12                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 20:00                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-04 16:20 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-04 16:21   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-05 15:19   ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-05 15:11     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-06  0:48     ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-06  3:44       ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-06  9:22         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-07 21:16       ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-08  3:46         ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-08 14:14         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-09 17:46           ` Darren New
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