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From: Jeffrey Carter <jrcarter@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Announce: Grace project site operational
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:16:33 GMT
Date: 2002-05-13T19:16:33+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE01103.E90B96B3@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4519e058.0205130744.2602e251@posting.google.com

Ted Dennison wrote:
> 
> Jeffrey Carter <jrcarter@acm.org> wrote in message news:<3CDD75C7.36C6ADCF@acm.org>...
> > The imported type Element should have the "=" operation imported for it.
> >
> > The "=" operations for types List and Iterator should be visible to
> > clients of the package.
> 
> I'd like to see more discussion on this point. The way I remember it,
> we didn't want to add a lot of generic parameters that >%99 of the
> time would not be used. I can't remember overloading "=" myself, ever.
> This goes back to the "default generic parameters" issue, but I
> digress. However, I seem to remember some folks saying that not
> importing "=" this way causes the built-in equality to reassert itself
> even after its been overridden. Am I remembering this correctly?

Yes. For this to be a general-purpose package, it should work correctly
if the client has a user-defined "=" for the actual type used for
Element. Since the package does use "=" for this type (in "=" for List),
it must be imported to work properly.

Luckily, we can default subprograms ("is <>"), so this adds no
additional burden to the instantiation for most users.

Since types List and Iterator are private, we are telling the client
that "=" for these types is meaningful. Since the predefined "="s for
these types are not meaningful, that means the client must have
visibility to the package-defined versions. Currently these versions are
declared in the private part of the package, so the client does not have
visibility to them. They should be moved to the visible part of the
specification so the client may call them.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time."
Monty Python & the Holy Grail



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-13 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-08  2:38 Announce: Grace project site operational Ted Dennison
2002-05-08  2:48 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-08 12:46   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-08 13:33     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09 19:54       ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-09 20:22         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-10 14:59           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10 18:54           ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-10 14:17       ` Larry Hazel
2002-05-10 14:46         ` David C. Hoos
2002-05-10 15:38         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-11 14:17           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 16:58             ` martin.m.dowie
2002-05-11 18:55               ` William C. Brennan
2002-05-11 20:10               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-12  8:53                 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-05-13 13:18               ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-13 13:07             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 15:18               ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 15:45                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-15 19:56                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16 13:44                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 17:02                 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 14:57                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-15 15:31                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-16 21:57                       ` tmoran
2002-05-17  1:55                       ` tmoran
2002-05-17 13:12                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-18  1:44                           ` tmoran
2002-05-15 15:54                     ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 17:33                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-15 17:04                         ` David C. Hoos
2002-05-15 22:59                     ` tmoran
2002-05-16 13:36                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-16 13:43                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-16 14:51                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17 15:34                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-20 13:47                           ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-21 14:23                             ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-21 17:24                               ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-21 17:52                                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-22 16:20                                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-28  8:22                                     ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-22 16:16                                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 11:06                     ` John English
2002-05-16 13:52                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 16:40                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-14 17:50                 ` tmoran
2002-05-14 18:07                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 18:12                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 18:52                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15  8:17                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 18:30                           ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16  9:16                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-16 19:42                               ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-17  8:35                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-20 17:08                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-21  8:34                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-21 15:57                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-22  7:48                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-22 11:40                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-22 15:05                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-22 16:14                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-22 16:31                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-23 11:40                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15  8:44                         ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 18:15                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-15 18:39                             ` Darren New
2002-05-15 19:34                               ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15 23:52                                 ` Darren New
2002-05-16  7:39                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16 15:35                                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 17:55                                       ` Brian Rogoff
2002-05-16 13:35                                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 15:50                                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 16:28                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-17 15:14                                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:08                                         ` Darren New
2002-05-17 16:41                                           ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:43                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:24                                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17 15:03                                     ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 15:27                                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:20                                         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:46                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-18  6:14                                         ` Simon Wright
2002-05-17 15:44                                       ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-17 16:09                                         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:48                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 21:11                                           ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-21  8:45                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 19:24                             ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15 23:33                         ` tmoran
2002-05-16 13:48                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 14:39                             ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-14 19:10                       ` tmoran
2002-05-14 19:58                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 19:42           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-11 20:16             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 19:49           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-13 15:44             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13 16:16               ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-13 17:10               ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-13 19:07                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 20:21                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 15:00                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 16:00                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 16:30                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 19:16               ` Jeffrey Carter [this message]
2002-05-13 19:19               ` Simon Wright
2002-05-11  1:23         ` Richard Riehle
2002-05-11 12:27           ` Marc A. Criley
2002-05-08 16:12     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-08 16:31       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-08 17:16         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09  9:50           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-09 13:32             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09 13:54             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-09 14:23               ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-05-09 20:02                 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-09 20:44                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-10 13:06                     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-10 16:23                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-10 18:57                         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-10 18:58                     ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-10  8:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10  9:12                     ` GRACE web site (was Announce: Grace project site operationa)l David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-05-10 14:33                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10 16:17                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 14:07                           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13 16:04                             ` Darren New
2002-05-10 19:00                     ` Announce: Grace project site operational Randy Brukardt
2002-05-13  8:10                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10 19:35                     ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13  8:01                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10 10:25                   ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-05-09 20:53               ` Simon Wright
2002-05-10  8:29               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-14 15:03                 ` John English
2002-05-15  8:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 10:38                     ` John English
2002-05-15 11:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 18:10                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-09 14:03           ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-09 15:38             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-11 18:10         ` William C. Brennan
2002-05-08 22:00       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-09  5:39         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-09 14:21         ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-25 22:03           ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-08 14:32 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-10 14:46   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10  7:47 ` fraser
2002-05-10 14:55   ` Ted Dennison
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-15  9:58 Grein, Christoph
2002-05-15 16:12 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-15 11:32 Grein, Christoph
2002-05-15 13:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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