Re: Outside view (still): Development process in the Ada community

[Michael Erdmann <Michael.Erdmann@snafu.de>]

Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
> "Michael Erdmann" <Michael.Erdmann@snafu.de> wrote:
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>>i am wondering how standards are eveloving in the Ada community.
>>In the Java Community there is a process called Java Community
>>Process (JCP, http://www.jcp.org/)
>>
> 
>>Is there something comparabel in the Ada communitiy? I gues
>>if there would be something like this there would be more
>>dynamic in the Ada 95 community.
>>
> 
> I thought this snippet of an email from the Ratio Group made an
> interesting commentary along the same lines; the problem of "too brittle
> ... too rigid" in a dynamic world seems to be generic, not limited to
> the Ada language capabilities development process.
> 
> xanthian, not that this is going to be a huge surprise to any long-time
> software practitioner.
> 
> (B) Extended Call for Position Papers: "Feyerabend Redefining Computing
> Workshop" at ECOOP 2002.

This is a nice title. In german language this sounds like

       "Feierabend..."

This gives me some association which are translated back into
english:

       "lets call it a day,  ...and go for a drink" ...

any how it is an interesting thing i am going to watch....:-)


> The goal of this workshop is to bring together everyone who is
> interested in the  redefinition of computing and/or in the use of
> alternative metaphors/languages/ ideas for entering the Next Era of
> computer science. 


> The major problem with the current flow of ideas is
> that current approaches merely enable the construction of software that
> is too brittle and too rigid in order to survive and operate in our real
> world which is dynamic and constantly subject to change.
I am not so sure. I guess we three different aspects:

Technically:
    Ada is missing some things we need every day..........

Social Wise
    There is no real homogenious community which is trying to
    achive the same thing (simply to survive). Newgroups are
    to informal to setup a real community. What community?
    There are a lot different members types in this community:

     - 100% Ada professional who are trying to make a living
       out of it.
     - Students which are trying solve there problems
     - Students which are persuing there ideas, diploma works
       etc....
     - Peoples like my self, which are involved in software
       development in there professional time but using Ada
       in there spare time outside there professinal life
       persuing there personal ideas of differnet software.
     - Simply wise guys ......

     .... and lots more....

Process Wise

     All these peoples are producing important software in Ada
     but most of the stuff goes down the drain, either
     because the software is not known, not stable or just because
     i am a wise guy which thinks i am doing every thing better
     then some body else. Simply there is no established process
     to make components a defact standard. :-(


I know, real world is not this simple, each of these topics are
related to each other, but my original idea was to do improve
the "world" at least process wise by finding a development
process which starts with a loose collection of ideas in the
net and ends up in the ISO documentents, so that every body
can rely on it!

Regards
    M.Erdmann


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> For more information, visit
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