Re: NetBeans and ADA?

Re: NetBeans and ADA?

[Ingo Marks]

Sergey Koshcheyev <serko84@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to also offer my help, since I'm quite interested in Eclipse. I'm
> currently investigating it, but I'm not an experienced programmer and it's
> been a while since I looked at Java.
> 
> Sergey.

Did you already take a look at JGNAT? You can compile ADA code into Java 
bytecode with it, so you don't need to code in Java anymore.

http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/languages/ada/compiler/gnat/distrib/jgnat/

Ingo.

JGnat support, was NetBeans and ADA?

[Joachim Schröer]

Ingo Marks wrote:

> Sergey Koshcheyev <serko84@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'd like to also offer my help, since I'm quite interested in Eclipse. I'm
>>currently investigating it, but I'm not an experienced programmer and it's
>>been a while since I looked at Java.
>>
>>Sergey.
>>
> 
> Did you already take a look at JGNAT? You can compile ADA code into Java 
> bytecode with it, so you don't need to code in Java anymore.
> 
> http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/languages/ada/compiler/gnat/distrib/jgnat/
> 
> Ingo.
> 


Hello,

I do not want to discourage anyone to use JGnat but there are some 
drawbacks (see my post some days ago):

The current public version does only support j2sdk1.2 (currently we have 
1.4.0). From ACT-Europe I got the information that JGnat will not be 
maintained in future due to lack of customer interest.
We were interested in Ada -> Java technology that has future. Our 
current project demands Java and we have a few hundred thousend loc of 
(not very nice) Ada83. I would prefer a transition to Ada95 and a 
parallel improvement of the code but we need an Ada95 to bytecode compiler.
Has anyone information about maintenance of other Ada->Java products 
like Aonix ObjectAda/Averstars appletmagic or similar?

	J. Schr�er

Re: NetBeans and ADA?

[Richard Riehle]

Ingo Marks wrote:

> Sergey Koshcheyev <serko84@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to also offer my help, since I'm quite interested in Eclipse. I'm
> > currently investigating it, but I'm not an experienced programmer and it's
> > been a while since I looked at Java.
> >
> > Sergey.
>
> Did you already take a look at JGNAT? You can compile ADA code into Java
> bytecode with it, so you don't need to code in Java anymore.

The current version of  JGNAT works quite well for some things.   It is in need
of some serious updating though.   I wish there were more commercial customers
for it so ACT would have a greater incentive to do more work on it.  Robert
Dewar is right when he states that lack of customer demand (make that paying
customer demand),  leads a company to examine its priorities more carefully.
The fact that ACT did invest its own resources in developing JGNAT and
found very little financial reward for it is sad.

So, I would like to ask that those who are using it find some reason to help
make
it financially attractive for ACT to continue to update the product.

Richard Riehle

Re: NetBeans and ADA?

[Marc A. Criley]

Richard Riehle wrote:
> 
>> 
> So, I would like to ask that those who are using it find some reason to help
> make
> it financially attractive for ACT to continue to update the product.

I would love to use JGNAT more extensively, and provide $upport for
ACT's continued maintenance, but unfortunately my market and financial
realities preclude purchasing a several thousand dollar support contract
:-(

Marc A. Criley

Re: NetBeans and ADA?

[Richard Riehle]

"Marc A. Criley" wrote:

> Richard Riehle wrote:
> >
> >>
> > So, I would like to ask that those who are using it find some reason to help
> > make
> > it financially attractive for ACT to continue to update the product.
>
> I would love to use JGNAT more extensively, and provide $upport for
> ACT's continued maintenance, but unfortunately my market and financial
> realities preclude purchasing a several thousand dollar support contract
> :-(

That seems to be the very problem we are confronting.   We cannot expect
developers to do this kind of work for free.    So, unless someone finds
it useful to pay for the support, JGNAT seems destined for the dustbin
of great ideas.   Then again, since the source code is in the public
domain, perhaps this is one of those projects someone with a lot of
time on their hands would be willing to do for free.  Not likely.

Richard Riehle

Re: NetBeans and ADA?

[Georg Bauhaus]

Marc A. Criley <mcqada95@earthlink.net> wrote:
 
: I would love to use JGNAT more extensively, and provide $upport for
: ACT's continued maintenance, but unfortunately my market and financial
: realities preclude purchasing a several thousand dollar support contract
: :-(

Maybe setting up an "account" to support/influence-in-a-friendly-manner
some university project might provide an incentive for someone?

- georg