From: Kenny Tilton <ktilton@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: True faiths ( was Re: The true faith )
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 03:56:04 GMT
Date: 2002-01-12T03:56:04+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C3FB4CA.14998012@nyc.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9jtu3u8cq92b05j47uat3412tok6hqu1ki@4ax.com
> Lisp, Ada , Eiffel and Smalltalk are all excellent languages, far
> superior to the Gang of Three ( Java, C++ , C ).
>
> Yet, if Kent is right, they may have all been " rejected ... for
> substantial reasons and not just superficial ones."
For a second I thought by "they" you meant Java, C++ and C. They have
indeed all been rejected, if you think about it.
Anybody want to do without GC and OO (besides Graham)? Goodbye C.
Anybody want to do without GC and worry about pointers and use templates
to get past static typing and wait minutes for a single
edit-compile-link-run iteration? Goodbye C++, witness the rejoicing over
Java, Perl, Python, Ruby...
Anybody happy with Java? Why are people adding JIT compilation, GFs, MI
(AspectJ) and macros?
Obviously the winner is any compiled (fast), GCed, GFing, MI dynamic
language with macros. Mature, an ANSII standard and a free
implementation would not hurt either. hang on...
Kenny
CliniSys
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2002-01-11 23:46 ` True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) israel r t
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2002-01-13 12:20 ` Kevin McFarlane
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2002-01-16 8:55 ` Espen Vestre
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2002-01-20 1:18 ` Bruce Hoult
2002-02-13 16:31 ` Tom Hawker
2002-02-13 17:51 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-13 23:28 ` Peter Gummer
2002-02-14 3:10 ` Greg C
2002-02-14 1:56 ` Hartmann Schaffer
2002-02-14 9:59 ` Barry Watson
2002-01-16 8:00 ` " Do computers because it pays well" ( was Re: True faiths ) israel r t
2002-01-14 11:00 ` True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) Immanuel Litzroth
2002-01-18 15:19 ` Bob Bane
2002-01-18 17:44 ` René
2002-01-18 18:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-01-18 23:22 ` Richard Riehle
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2002-01-20 5:59 ` Kaz Kylheku
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2002-01-21 9:52 ` Hyman Rosen
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2002-01-21 20:30 ` Kaz Kylheku
2002-01-22 5:35 ` Raffael Cavallaro
2002-01-18 18:44 ` Simon Willcocks
2002-01-22 17:01 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-01-22 21:59 ` Bruce Hoult
2002-01-22 22:08 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-01-22 23:22 ` Kenny Tilton
2002-01-23 21:12 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-01-23 22:24 ` Tim Bradshaw
2002-01-24 0:15 ` Kenny Tilton
2002-01-24 8:14 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-01-24 16:50 ` Canconical C++ assignment (was Re: True faiths ...) Ray Blaak
2002-01-23 2:26 ` True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) Bruce Hoult
2002-01-23 17:49 ` Richard Riehle
2002-01-22 22:09 ` Jim Rogers
2002-01-22 22:54 ` Kaz Kylheku
2002-01-22 23:47 ` Jim Rogers
2002-01-23 0:08 ` Ada SDL Eric Merritt
2002-01-23 1:39 ` Rajat Datta
2002-01-23 10:52 ` Preben Randhol
2002-01-23 13:59 ` Eric Merritt
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2002-01-23 16:01 ` True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) Greg C
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2002-02-11 20:13 ` Kaz Kylheku
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2002-01-18 19:57 ` Kaz Kylheku
2002-01-18 19:58 ` Marc Spitzer
2002-01-18 20:11 ` Ed Falis
2002-01-18 22:14 ` Kenny Tilton
2002-01-19 2:46 ` Thomas F. Burdick
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2002-02-13 23:12 ` Tom Hawker
2002-01-14 11:42 ` Kevin McFarlane
2002-01-12 2:31 ` Victor B. Putz
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2002-01-12 22:45 ` Fernando Rodr�guez
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