From: Richard Riehle <richard@adaworks.com>
Subject: Re: Joint Strike Fighter
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:38:34 -0800
Date: 2001-10-31T06:34:30+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BDF9C6A.C25520C5@adaworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 11bf7180.0110290311.4d8d6f04@posting.google.com
Ian wrote:
> Richard Riehle <richard@adaworks.com> wrote in message news:<3BDCE159.39F6D422@adaworks.com>...
> > Now that LMCO has been awarded the contract for
> > JSF, does anyone know if the original plan to do the
> > software in Ada remains unchanged?
> >
> [trawl?]
This may have seemed like a "trawl" but it was just an inquiry based on
earlier information.
> I doubt this plan got very far. The current LMCO plan is to reuse most
> of the X-35 work in this new SDD phase. C++ code will be produced in 3
> phases over 10.5 years. This is being amended for a 2008 introduction.
> The size estimate is 4 to 6 M SLOC.
C++. It is really sad when a system that requires high reliability and
dependability ends of being programmed in a language as brittle and
error-prone as C++.
> Where C++ will be rejected for certification reasons in flight
> critical boxes I expect Ada will be used.
That's somewhat comforting.
> Either the theory that Ada has superior economics over the whole
> life-cycle process is wrong or somebody goofed up. It would be
> speculation to say who did. LMCO for getting their fingers burnt with
> Ada83 on the F-22, DoD pushing Faster, Cheaper, Better; or too many
> people demanding to be able to write C++.
Economics over dependability? I know there are a lot of really bright
software professionals at LMCO, most of them, in fact. The decision
to use C++ no doubt has justification that we will never understand,
especially those of us who know both Ada and C++ pretty well. I
guess economics, in the long run, is an important factor. It is a little
disappointing to see Ada eased out of yet another major DoD
application -- and just as we are noticing an increase in interest
in Ada among some of our better trained military officers.
These things occur in cycles, I suppose. Recently, I noticed a project
that is purported to be starting-up with Jovial as the intended implementation
language. Of course, Jovial has an excellent track record for weapon
systems design, so that makes some sense.
Richard Riehle
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2001-10-29 4:55 Joint Strike Fighter Richard Riehle
2001-10-29 11:11 ` Ian
2001-10-31 6:38 ` Richard Riehle [this message]
2001-10-31 13:38 ` David Botton
2001-10-31 16:15 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-31 16:25 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01 4:44 ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 14:41 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-03 16:58 ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-03 18:52 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-05 15:30 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-06 2:07 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-06 16:46 ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 18:17 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-06 19:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-06 21:19 ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 23:01 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 14:55 ` Rex Reges
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2001-11-08 15:43 ` Ian Wild
2001-11-08 22:18 ` Rex Reges
2001-11-22 6:25 ` David Thompson
2001-11-08 16:23 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 13:53 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-08 22:15 ` Rex Reges
2001-11-09 12:44 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-09 15:41 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 15:35 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-10 6:56 ` john flynn
2001-11-04 1:08 ` David Botton
2001-11-05 14:59 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01 14:55 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-01 21:47 ` P Norby
2001-11-02 17:02 ` P Norby
[not found] ` <003301c163c0$289f8c60$45d82c41@vaio>
2001-11-02 19:54 ` JF Harrison
[not found] ` <002a01c163d8$25bb4440$2702a8c0@WorkGroup>
2001-11-02 20:40 ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 11:38 ` Ian
2001-11-01 14:51 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 9:08 ` John McCabe
2001-11-02 16:16 ` Ian
2001-11-02 17:04 ` John McCabe
2001-11-29 16:48 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-29 17:12 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 12:49 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 14:46 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 16:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30 15:03 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 16:26 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 16:39 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 17:08 ` Pat Rogers
2001-11-30 22:53 ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-12-01 8:08 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-29 15:02 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-29 17:55 ` Paul A Storm
2001-11-01 4:46 ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-02 20:03 ` Dirk Craeynest
2001-11-07 3:57 ` Vincent Marciante
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