From: Jeffrey Carter <jrcarter@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Container reqs
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 02:09:37 GMT
Date: 2001-10-23T02:09:37+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BD4D157.C96BBAAD@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ug08bgnu2.fsf@gsfc.nasa.gov
Stephen Leake wrote:
>
> PragmARC does _not_ support indefinite types, which are a large part
> of Ada (strings, unconstrained variant records, tagged types with
> unconstrained discriminants). In addition, the comment says "no
> scalars"; I'm not clear why.
That is correct. Raw indefinite types are not reasonable types to store
in a data structure. If you need to store strings, you should be using
an abstraction such as (Un)Bounded_String. Similar abstractions should
be used for other indefinite types.
The problem with scalars is that there is a range check required on copy
in for a scalar parameter of mode in out. The PragmARCs pass
uninitialized objects of type Element to the To parameter of Assign. If
Element is a scalar subtype (such as Positive) and an object's
uninitialized value is out of the subtype's range (-7), Constraint_Error
would be raised. For scalar types that cannot have an out of range value
(Integer), this is not an issue, but for a simple-minded rule, no
scalars is easily stated. It is a simple matter to wrap a scalar in a
record if it's really needed, but experience shows that data structures
are almost always used for more complex types. It's a reasonable trade
off for being able to handle limited types without access types.
> So I don't think PragmARC meets the criteria of "simple instantiation
> for all reasonable Ada types".
>
> Perhaps we disagree on the meaning of "reasonable" here.
So it would seem. I think SAL doesn't provide simple instantiation for
any Ada type.
--
Jeffrey R. Carter
PragmAda Software Engineering
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Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-14 20:46 Container reqs Ehud Lamm
2001-10-14 22:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-15 20:04 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-16 15:19 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-16 19:17 ` Darren New
2001-10-14 22:52 ` James Rogers
2001-10-15 1:22 ` Darren New
2001-10-15 20:06 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-16 18:29 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-17 5:55 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-15 20:15 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-15 6:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-16 15:25 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-17 12:40 ` John English
2001-10-17 13:16 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-18 15:26 ` John English
2001-10-18 16:02 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-17 14:17 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-23 8:17 ` John English
2001-10-23 14:23 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-23 20:07 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-23 20:46 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-23 20:50 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-23 21:18 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-24 8:30 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-24 14:08 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-25 20:10 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-25 21:18 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-25 21:25 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-23 21:27 ` Larry Hazel
2001-10-23 22:03 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-15 14:27 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-15 17:47 ` Darren New
2001-10-15 20:08 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-17 6:08 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-18 20:52 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-18 22:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-19 12:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-10-19 15:36 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-19 14:53 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-20 11:10 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-21 18:17 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-22 17:02 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-22 17:34 ` David Botton
2001-10-22 18:02 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-20 2:44 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-21 18:24 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-23 1:13 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-23 2:09 ` Jeffrey Carter [this message]
2001-10-23 13:29 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-24 2:26 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-24 13:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-24 14:02 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-24 14:24 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-24 19:01 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-25 1:40 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-15 14:39 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-15 15:36 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-16 18:47 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-16 19:18 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-15 20:13 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-16 8:14 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-16 8:50 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-16 10:12 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-16 9:45 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-16 13:20 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-16 15:34 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-16 18:49 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-17 6:02 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-16 17:21 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-16 18:57 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-16 18:59 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-16 19:38 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-16 20:01 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-16 20:19 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-30 6:53 ` Barry Kelly
2001-10-30 14:53 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-30 16:14 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-30 16:55 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-31 6:37 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-30 17:45 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-16 22:12 ` Robert*
2001-10-17 7:09 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-17 13:36 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-17 14:12 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-17 15:15 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-17 16:32 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-17 16:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-17 16:55 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-18 7:39 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-18 9:03 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-18 17:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-18 20:09 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-18 22:35 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-19 8:44 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-20 11:14 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-21 16:37 ` Paul Duquennoy
2001-10-17 17:18 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-18 8:59 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-18 19:42 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-18 20:55 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-22 6:46 ` Kenneth Almquist
2001-10-22 8:04 ` mike
2001-10-22 8:42 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-22 16:30 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-22 17:14 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-16 11:37 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-16 13:23 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-16 13:39 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-16 15:36 ` Vincent Marciante
2001-10-16 16:15 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-16 19:04 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-16 15:53 ` Ted Dennison
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