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From: Ian Wild <ian@cfmu.eurocontrol.int>
Subject: Re: on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it?
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:04:03 GMT
Date: 2001-10-12T12:04:03+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BC6DCEC.B20A3AC1@cfmu.eurocontrol.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3bc6c10c.1151635@news.demon.co.uk

John McCabe wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:07:17 GMT, Ian Wild <ian@cfmu.eurocontrol.int>
> wrote:
> 
> >I've not seen it mentioned yet, but you really need to add
> >at least *three* new incantations:
> >
> > -o- To attract Java programmers you need "object.method()", and
> >make it dispatching.
> >
> >  -o- To attract C++ programmers you need a non-dispatching
> >"object.method()", and a dispatching "access_to_object->method()".
> 
> I disagree with the last one. Consider the Ada justification for not
> differentiating the dot notation between 'pointers' and objects, and I
> think this should be applied to any future change of method calling.

But you need the two different versions to allow (and, indeed, force)
the programmer to endlessly fret about the relative efficiency of
a direct non-dispatching call versus a vtable lookup.

> Personally, now I'm using C++, I find the -> a pain!

Me too, and me too.  I'd be happier if C++ had, in its early days, adopted
the then-common convention of putting the verb first, followed by a
parethesised list of actual parameters.  No wonder it never caught on.



  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-12 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-04 19:58 on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? mike
2001-10-04 20:34 ` Larry Hazel
2001-10-04 20:54   ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-04 21:04   ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-04 22:00     ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-04 22:13       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-04 23:38         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-04 23:43           ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-05  0:40             ` MM
2001-10-05  3:22               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-04 22:09     ` tmoran
2001-10-05 14:21       ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-04 20:53 ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? Marin David Condic
2001-10-05  9:24   ` John McCabe
2001-10-05 10:35     ` mike
2001-10-05 13:29       ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-05 14:17         ` mike
2001-10-05 14:39       ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-05 15:07         ` mike
2001-10-05 15:56           ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-05 16:12             ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2001-10-06  9:16               ` Simon Wright
2001-10-06 12:36               ` Marc A. Criley
2001-10-05 16:52       ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-05 12:54     ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-05 17:11     ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-05 18:52       ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-05 19:17       ` Vincent Marciante
2001-10-08  8:26         ` John McCabe
2001-10-05  1:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-06  9:25   ` Simon Wright
2001-10-07 19:49     ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-07 21:12       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-08 14:51       ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-08 16:11         ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2001-10-08 16:17           ` John McCabe
2001-10-09  7:41             ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2001-10-10  8:04               ` John McCabe
2001-10-10  9:47                 ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 10:17                   ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2001-10-10 10:27                   ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2001-10-10 12:50                     ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 13:41                       ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2001-10-08 16:25         ` Robert*
2001-10-08 19:50           ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-10-08 16:37         ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 16:41         ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? Vincent Marciante
2001-10-08 18:50           ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-08 19:46             ` Vincent Marciante
2001-10-08 16:58         ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-08 19:06           ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-08 19:43             ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-09 14:22               ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-10  5:24                 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-09 23:02               ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? Darren New
2001-10-10  0:55                 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-10  1:48                   ` Robert*
2001-10-10  2:28                     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-10 15:10                       ` Darren New
2001-10-10 18:38                         ` tmoran
2001-10-10 19:30                           ` Darren New
2001-10-10  9:51                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-10 13:05                     ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 15:37                       ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-10 17:05                         ` Steven Deller
2001-10-10 17:54                           ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-11  8:35                         ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 15:53                       ` M. A. Alves
2001-10-10 18:53                         ` Robert*
2001-10-11  6:54                           ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-11 12:07                             ` Robert*
2001-10-11 12:40                               ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-11 14:24                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 15:17                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-11 15:34                                   ` Robert*
2001-10-11 17:41                                     ` David Starner
2001-10-12  8:25                                       ` John McCabe
2001-10-12  9:07                                         ` Ian Wild
2001-10-12 10:16                                           ` John McCabe
2001-10-12 12:04                                             ` Ian Wild [this message]
2001-10-12 17:01                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-15  8:18                                           ` John McCabe
2001-10-15 18:21                                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-15 19:00                                               ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-15 20:26                                             ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-15 20:52                                               ` Robert*
2001-10-15 21:57                                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-15 22:40                                                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-16  8:40                                                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-10-16 12:49                                               ` John McCabe
2001-10-16 16:57                                                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-17  8:23                                                   ` John McCabe
2001-10-11 18:37                                     ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? M. A. Alves
2001-10-11 19:39                                       ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-12 11:23                                         ` M. A. Alves
2001-10-13 17:32                                           ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-11 21:03                                       ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? Preben Randhol
2001-10-12  8:35                                         ` John McCabe
2001-10-12 11:35                                           ` M. A. Alves
2001-10-11 21:01                                     ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-12  2:04                                       ` David Starner
2001-10-12  9:02                                         ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-12 19:15                                           ` David Starner
2001-10-13 11:26                                             ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-12  2:29                                       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-12  8:45                                         ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-12 10:20                                           ` John McCabe
2001-10-12 14:54                                           ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-12 19:21                                           ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? David Starner
2001-10-12 21:23                                             ` Vector..
2001-10-13  2:13                                               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-13  3:21                                             ` Mark Biggar
2001-10-15 16:18                                       ` John McCabe
2001-10-11 13:19                               ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-11 13:42                               ` on package naming, should the word Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 15:18                                 ` Robert*
2001-10-11 15:47                                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 16:15                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-11 16:15                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 20:16                                   ` Simon Wright
2001-10-12  8:33                                     ` John McCabe
2001-10-12 16:27                                       ` Darren New
2001-10-14 20:34                                   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-10-14 22:03                                     ` Robert*
2001-10-15 12:04                                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-15 21:17                                         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-15  6:50                               ` on package naming, should the word "_pkg" be part of it? Mats Karlssohn
2001-10-15 10:24                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-18 16:23           ` Robert A Duff
2001-10-05  6:05 ` MM
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