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From: John English <je@brighton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: GNAT and GCC 3.0
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:06:39 +0100
Date: 2001-10-08T12:41:52+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BC196CF.ACEA8F64@brighton.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1002537555.4060.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org

Samuel Tardieu wrote:
> 
> On  8/10, John English wrote:
> | David Botton wrote:
> | >
> | > Fantastic! I had misunderstood and thought that ACT would no longer be
> | > making public releases and public packages would become dependant on
> | > volunteers building their packages from the gcc sources...
> |
> | ...or would, like Perl/Python/Tcl, have Windows binaries available
> | from Active State with a restrictive license that makes them freely
> | downloadable but which prevents them being redistributed to third
> | parties... :-(
> 
> Please do not spread FUD.
> 
> This is *not* doable with GNAT. ACT does not hold the copyright on GNAT
> sources, and thus is not allowed to make any change to the license. Only
> the FSF, which is the copyright holder, would be allowed to distribute
> GNAT under a more restrictive license.

Does this apply to binaries? Certainly Perl, Python and Tcl are "open source"
in some form (Perl is Perl Artistic License, Tcl is (c) Regents of University
of Calfornia, Python is something else :) but this does not appear to apply to
precompiled binaries for Windows, which Active State say are not redistributable
without their permission. (I have asked for permission to do this but have not
received a reply to my email.)

The sources are of course available and redistributable.

Not being a lawyer, I don't know if the GPL would prevent such conditions
being imposed on a precompiled binary made from GPL source, or whether
the vendor is merely obliged to point you at the sources and say "here
you are, you can compile it yourself if you want to, but you can't give
away copies of *our* compiled binaries".

Certainly Active State's lawyers appear to believe that the Perl Artistic
License and the Regents of UoC license allow this kind of restriction to
be applied to binaries... :-(

If you tell me that this is indeed FUD, and that the GPL terms prevent
restrictions on redistributing binaries produced from GPL source, I will
be delighted to be proven wrong!

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-08 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-02 15:47 GNAT and GCC 3.0 G. Fisher
2001-10-02 17:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-04 18:38   ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-05  8:39     ` Juanma Barranquero
2001-10-06 14:24       ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-07 10:23         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-08  7:53         ` Juanma Barranquero
2001-10-05 23:06     ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-10-06  6:58       ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-06 17:51       ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-08 11:24         ` Steffen Huber
2001-10-10  6:07           ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-11  4:02         ` David Brown
2001-10-11  9:24           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-02 18:21 ` David Starner
2001-10-02 20:22   ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-02 21:21     ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03  0:02       ` David Starner
2001-10-03 13:58         ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03  4:02 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-04 22:58   ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-05 15:08     ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-07  2:38       ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-06 14:39     ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-07  2:30       ` David Botton
2001-10-08  9:10         ` John English
2001-10-08 10:38           ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-10-08 12:06             ` John English [this message]
2001-10-08 14:39               ` Aidan Skinner
2001-10-08 15:05               ` David Botton
2001-10-08 19:40                 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-10-09 22:22                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-11 12:08                   ` David Botton
2001-10-09 15:17               ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 15:46                 ` Steven Deller
2001-10-09 17:34                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 22:31                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-09 16:53                 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 22:25                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-09 22:20               ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-15  8:08                 ` John English
2001-10-09 22:16             ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-08 14:54           ` David Botton
2001-10-09 22:18         ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-11 12:16           ` David Botton
2001-10-07 15:28       ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-07 22:30         ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-08  3:27           ` David Starner
2001-10-08 13:51             ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-09 21:00               ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  6:11                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-10  7:10                   ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  9:59                   ` Larry Kilgallen
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2001-10-10 16:30                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-12-05 20:58                     ` Ronald Cole
2001-12-05 21:35                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-05 23:45                         ` Ronald Cole
2001-12-06  5:27                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-06 17:32                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-06 20:04                               ` Simon Wright
2001-12-07  1:59                               ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-07 16:44                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-07  1:43                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-12-07 14:42                               ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-07 21:06                                 ` Florian Weimer
2001-12-08  4:24                                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-08  4:25                                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-08 12:35                                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-06 17:04                           ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-05 21:39                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-05 21:52                       ` Pat Rogers
2001-12-05 23:35                         ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  6:23                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-10  7:38                   ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  9:01                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-10 17:06                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11  9:22                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-12  9:10                         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-12 10:03                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-13  2:07                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-03  7:24 ` Rob_NOWHERE.
2001-10-03  8:13   ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-03 12:08   ` Claude SIMON
2001-10-03 16:17   ` Robert Dewar
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