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From: Larry Elmore <ljelmore@home.com>
Subject: Re: Ada and the NMD
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 00:54:12 GMT
Date: 2001-09-08T00:54:12+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B997008.85311F1D@home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrn9pg3ss.35r.randhol+abuse@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no

Preben Randhol wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 17:59:52 GMT, Ted Dennison wrote:
> 
> > As ususal I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, although I have to say
> > that I've yet to see any *hard* evidence that Preben is wrong. However, you
> > can't really use the term "government" wrt the US as Preben does, because we
> > don't quite work that way. Our government has 2 political branches, one of which
> > is split into two parts. Of those 3, 2 are presently controlled by one party,
> > and the third is (barely) controlled by another. Obviously, you'll search in
> > vain for any kind of unified coherent message comming out of the whole.
> 
> When I say government I mean the Bush administration. The system is a
> bit different here so that is why I said government.
> 
> But one thing that strikes me as very odd is that the Bush adm.
> wants/wanted (I don't know the current status) to allow increased levels
> of pollution in drinking water in the US as I understood it. It sounds
> to me that the industry is much more important than the people of the
> US for the Bush adm., but then again I'm not living over there.

Not _increased_ levels, just the same levels we've had for years and
years. _Most_ of the country already meets the proposed new lower
standard for arsenic, for example. The places that don't are
overwhelmingly due to natural sources in the local environment. Also,
there's absolutely _nothing_ preventing a state, or a county, or a town
from spending the money to meet whatever standards the local citizens
approve of setting for themselves. IIRC, the new standard would've been
an "unfunded mandate", so the federal government wouldn't be providing
money to the effort, only fining those towns who didn't meet the
standards soon enough.

I read the NRC/NAS report on arsenic, and I thought the summary's
conclusions were misleading at best, and directly contradict some of
their own earlier statements. Several times they mention that virtually
_no_ scientifically valid studies of the effects of low levels of
arsenic are available, but they conclude that because high levels do
cause problems, then low levels must be bad, too. Never mind the fact
that almost nothing natural that we know of follows such a linear scale
of toxicity, or danger...

Larry



  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-08  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-06  4:53 Ada and the NMD Al Christians
2001-09-06 10:27 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 11:55   ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 18:03     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-07 19:31       ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 11:13 ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 13:57   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 15:11     ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 15:27       ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 16:25         ` Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 17:57           ` chris.danx
2001-09-06 18:52             ` Darren New
2001-09-06 19:35               ` chris.danx
2001-09-06 20:01                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:43               ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 21:46                 ` Darren New
2001-09-06 22:13                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  0:28                     ` Jeff Creem
2001-09-07  8:42                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  1:27                     ` James Rogers
2001-09-07  8:56                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:10                       ` James Rogers
2001-09-10 14:57                         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-09-07 13:45                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:06                     ` Darren New
2001-09-08  1:59                       ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-09-10 14:48                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 15:15                       ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-09-08 16:35                     ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-10 14:35                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 23:01                         ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-07 13:38                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 18:56             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-08  0:38               ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-06 17:59         ` Ada and the NMD Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 19:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 20:15             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:31               ` WAY OFF TOPIC was: " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 14:12                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:25                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-06 20:34           ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 21:02             ` OT: US Green politics (was: Ada and the NMD) Ted Dennison
2001-09-07  2:06               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-09-07 13:59                 ` Off Topic " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:19             ` Ada and the NMD Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-09-10 14:53               ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 22:04           ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07 14:29             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-08  0:54             ` Larry Elmore [this message]
2001-09-06 17:21       ` Dale Pennington
2001-09-06 21:54         ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-10  5:51         ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-10 20:57           ` David Bolen
2001-09-10 21:31             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 21:36             ` Steve Howard
2001-09-06 17:31       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-09 11:53         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-09-06 12:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-09-06 16:34 ` William Dale
2001-09-06 19:20 ` Ada in air/missile defense systems (was: Ada and NMD) Michael P. Card
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