From: Al Christians <achrist@easystreet.com>
Subject: Re: Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:54:58 -0700
Date: 2001-07-09T21:54:58-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B4A8AA2.C8005D0C@easystreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a87a922b.0107091938.f94a319@posting.google.com
"Michael P. Card" wrote:
>
> OK, but realize here when you say "outside military and embedded
> systems" you are excluding the main domains for Ada. That would be
> akin to me asking you to show me a bunch of defense contractors that
> switched from Ada to Java/C++ for million-line plus real-time
> applications that succeeded and are still committed to Java/C++ today!
It's not like Ada wasn't supposed to be good for banal, hackneyed or
workaday applications. It used to be popular amongst the European
banks, but have they stuck with it? And there was Sage. When Sage was
in Modula-2, it was used to develop a business-type database app that
was a success with many users (hundreds of public-sector organizations
???) across the US. Then Sage was converted to AdaSage, appeared on
the Walnut Creek Ada CD, and was supposed to make it easy to develop
run-of-the-mill database applications in Ada. What share of the
run-of-the-mill database application market does Ada now hold? How
successful has AdaSage been vis-a-vis Modula-2 Sage?
Al
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2001-07-05 21:56 is ada dead? tyler spivey
2001-07-05 23:11 ` James Rogers
2001-07-06 0:21 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-06 2:31 ` wzm
2001-07-06 7:47 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-06 12:12 ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-06 21:33 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-06 14:04 ` Marin David Condic
[not found] ` <3B45E0E9.E3E7BB55@nokia.com>
2001-07-06 16:45 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-06 18:28 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-06 19:12 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-07 1:57 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-06 21:36 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-07 10:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-07 18:44 ` James Rogers
2001-07-07 21:19 ` String support (was: is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-08 3:15 ` is ada dead? Stephen J. Bevan
2001-07-08 3:46 ` James Rogers
2001-07-08 5:29 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2001-07-09 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-08 11:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-08 14:57 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2001-07-08 13:34 ` Me
2001-07-07 18:33 ` James Rogers
2001-07-07 22:41 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-08 0:58 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-09 1:33 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-08 1:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-08 17:19 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-08 21:28 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-09 2:46 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-09 10:36 ` Mandating code quality (was: is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-08 10:52 ` is ada dead? Michal Nowak
2001-07-08 22:38 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-09 1:20 ` James Rogers
2001-07-09 14:45 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-09 15:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-09 20:27 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-07-09 21:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-14 16:49 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-10 23:59 ` Why " raj
2001-07-14 16:53 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-14 23:14 ` James Rogers
2001-07-15 22:57 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-16 14:00 ` Trains in the US (was: Why is ada dead?) Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 23:56 ` Why is ada dead? raj
2001-07-11 2:59 ` James Rogers
2001-07-09 16:50 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-15 18:14 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-16 15:38 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-16 17:32 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-07-16 22:18 ` tmoran
2001-08-01 18:53 ` "first-mover (dis)advantage" (was Re: is ada dead?) Mark Lundquist
2001-08-02 15:44 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-21 16:30 ` is ada dead? Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-16 18:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-16 18:21 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-16 20:14 ` Gary Scott
2001-07-16 18:26 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-07-16 21:21 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-10 23:31 ` raj
2001-07-10 23:32 ` raj
2001-07-10 23:46 ` "garbage dumps are full of superior solutions" raj
2001-07-10 23:47 ` Managers believe that Ada programmers are hard to find raj
2001-07-11 9:38 ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-11 12:39 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-11 17:32 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-11 19:05 ` Pat Rogers
2001-07-07 22:37 ` is ada dead? Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-08 1:10 ` James Rogers
2001-07-08 1:47 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-08 9:01 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-08 10:52 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-08 22:40 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-09 1:48 ` James Rogers
2001-07-09 15:11 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-07-09 16:14 ` Al Christians
2001-07-09 19:35 ` Death by analogy Part 1 (was Re: is ada dead?) Michael P. Card
2001-07-09 19:52 ` Death by analogy Part 2 " Michael P. Card
2001-07-09 22:07 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 3:38 ` Michael P. Card
2001-07-10 4:54 ` Al Christians [this message]
2001-07-10 10:54 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-10 16:58 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 17:58 ` William Dale
2001-07-10 18:39 ` Michael P. Card
2001-07-10 20:10 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 20:46 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 20:54 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 21:15 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 21:29 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 21:10 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 21:26 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-10 21:26 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 21:48 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 21:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-11 1:59 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-11 2:38 ` DuckE
2001-07-11 21:00 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-12 1:42 ` DuckE
2001-07-12 10:54 ` UML for Ada raj
2001-07-12 8:03 ` Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) David Humphris
2001-07-13 2:43 ` DuckE
2001-07-23 21:53 ` Greg Bek
2001-07-20 7:49 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-10 20:26 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 20:39 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 20:42 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 20:53 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Michael P. Card
2001-07-11 5:25 ` Ada and UML raj
2001-07-11 9:40 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-07-13 19:00 ` Nick Williams
2001-07-13 19:46 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-17 8:25 ` David Humphris
2001-07-16 0:56 ` Ken Garlington
2001-07-16 1:57 ` Ada and UML - Rational dropping Ada? Jeff Creem
2001-07-16 17:37 ` Ken Garlington
2001-07-17 18:59 ` Ada and UML Simon Wright
2001-07-23 14:38 ` John Kern
2001-08-04 6:29 ` Simon Wright
2001-07-11 0:25 ` Sure FIRM is lost, but really, who cares raj
2001-07-11 0:33 ` Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-10 12:58 ` John Kern
2001-07-10 13:59 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-10 1:21 ` is ada dead? Pat Rogers
2001-07-10 2:29 ` Al Christians
2001-07-09 1:44 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-08 21:05 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-09 10:43 ` One True Language (was: is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-09 15:09 ` is ada dead? Ted Dennison
2001-07-14 18:40 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-09 2:37 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-07 23:03 ` chris.danx
2001-07-09 15:22 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-09 16:13 ` chris.danx
2001-07-10 9:02 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-10 10:29 ` Contributing patches to GPL Ada projects (was: Is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-10 12:44 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-10 15:24 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 22:33 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-11 7:46 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-11 13:07 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-11 16:26 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-11 13:41 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-11 16:30 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-11 17:45 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-14 14:05 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-16 15:38 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-16 17:37 ` Ken Garlington
2001-07-11 12:35 ` McDoobie
2001-07-12 8:16 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-14 19:48 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-15 0:16 ` McDoobie
2001-07-18 16:17 ` Stephen Leake
2001-07-18 17:55 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-19 23:13 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-20 17:05 ` Stephen Leake
2001-07-10 13:58 ` is ada dead? Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 17:04 ` Pascal Obry
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2001-07-09 21:59 Death by analogy Part 2 (was RE: is Ada dead?) Michael P. Card
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