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[Gary Scott <scottg@flash.net>]

Hi,

Michal Nowak wrote:
> 
> On 01-06-16, at 09:57, Gary Scott  wrote:
> 
> >Hi,

<snip> 

> 
> >The very small numbers of people using news groups may be highly aware
> >of what's available (and possibly what's superior), but less than 2
> >percent of the 2000 or so programmers at my company are aware that Ada
> >is even an option for students and would never consider using it for
> >their personal projects, even though a significant portion of them are
> >required to use it at work.  They have no idea about GNAT or ADAPOWER.
> >All they know is M$oft promotes the heck out of C++ and it's available
> >at Best Buy, CompUSA, and Fry's, and "management is forcing me to use a
> >dead language".
> 
> Yes, really awful situation. I don't why, but after writing some projects
> in Ada, they should be familiar with it, so it should not be easier to
> them to write Ada code. They writing in Ada, and do not know about GNAT
> or ADAPOWER?

We use Green Hills almost exclusively.  For some embedded processors, we
write the OS itself, along with a subcontractor, but for others we use a
real time OS provided by GH.

> 
> >Ada SHOULD have a better chance of putting a dent in C++ usage
> >than my favorite (dead) language, but doesn't seem to be doing as well,
> >at least in the last 3-5 years.

I was referring to the continuing move of my company away from Ada and
towards C++.  Every new project that starts that can conceivably NOT be
written in Ada (i.e. not a modification to a legacy product or otherwise
dependent on baseline code, but a completely new product (and one that
can stand the costs involved)) is moved to C++. In some cases, we also
have background projects going on to investigate moving even the biggest
projects away from Ada.  I'm anticipating that to occur for the largest
2 projects in about 5 years when we simultaneously redesign the main
processors to a PowerPC base (now MIPS).  I advise my senior management
of the error of their ways whenever the opportunity arises, but it falls
on deaf ears.  The pressure now is from the workforce that wants to
"maintain its skills at the state of the art" (meaning C++).  No matter
the facts, "state of the art" is for the most part whatever M$oft says
it is.

> 
> I don't know what's you favourite language (looks it is Fortran), but
> I wish you well. I don't know recent situation in Ada, because im totally
> newbie in this world, but for me it looks that Ada has stabile, strong
> position of good language.
> 
> ------------------------
> Mike Nowak
> mailto: vinnie@inetia.pl


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