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From: Mats Karlssohn <mats@mida.se>
Subject: Re: Compile time executed functions
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 09:47:35 +0200
Date: 2001-04-04T07:47:36+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ACAD197.FB2C3303@mida.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: lEHw6.434$2g1.81555482@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com

Ken Garlington wrote:
%<
> : Say I want to create a table of data. The data is constant and must not
> : change during the programs lifetime. Further more, the data is quite
> : time consuming to calculate.
> :
> : In C++ (bad word again :) I can (with some effort) write a template that
> : does all the calculations in the compiler at compile time.
> 
> Could you post an example of such a template, and what in the C++ standard
> you rely upon to guarantee compile-time calculations? Also, does
> "compile-time" include "link-time", or are you not allowed to have anything
> in the table that uses addresses?

Well.. no. I must admit (quite embarresed) that I can't, I spent a few
hours during the weekend trying to put together an example, but I
couldn't
get it to work. However (and more importantly) I've seen such a thing
done, I just havn't acces to that sourcecode anymore, so I really can't
examine it. Bugger, it might be that I'm plain wrong and have fallen for
some 'good talk for the project management' (I'm NOT the manager,
but...)



> It's the part about "pasting the output" that seems odd. Why not have it
> generate a stand-alone Ada *package* (e.g, BlahBlah)? We do this now in a
> number of cases. In fact, you can have an automated build script that
> generates the code, updates the CM system with it, then does the things you
> usually expect in such a script (extract source from CM system, compile,
> link...)

Yes, I could, but:
1. I'm too lazy to do it.
2. There's quite a lot of other code/data in the package.

But this actually gives me an idea, my data table could be separate,
right ? That would render the output from the tool so small that I
actually could generate the whole source file, so that no handediting
is needed. I'll need to investigate this.

> : Am I plain stupid since I worry about when what's included in my
> : output and when time is consumed ?
> 
> Not at all. However, the source generation option can be just as reliable
> (more so, since it's less dependent on compiler-specific optimizations) that
> whjat you are wanting, IMHO. Even better, you can readily reuse the concept
> if you move between languages (just have the source generation tool use a
> template file to control the form of the output).

OK

I thought that i had decided to let the tool produce an (ELF) object
file
and just pragma Import(..) a symbol from that. Now I'll investigate and
reconsider.

-- 
Mats Karlssohn, developer                         mailto:mats@mida.se  
Mida Systemutveckling AB                          http://www.mida.se
Box 64, S-732 22 ARBOGA, SWEDEN
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-04  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-27  7:10 Compile time executed functions Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-27 13:30 ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-28  7:08   ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-28 19:07     ` Phaedrus
2001-03-29  7:41       ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-29  5:02     ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-29  7:58       ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-29 14:28         ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-29 14:48           ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-04  7:52             ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-04-04 14:05               ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-05  6:30                 ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-29 19:48           ` Simon Wright
2001-03-31 19:30             ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-04  7:53             ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-30 10:41           ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-03-30 16:13             ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-30 16:47               ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-03-30 18:54                 ` Stephen Leake
2001-04-01  8:42                   ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-03-31 19:30                 ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-01  8:59                   ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-04-01 18:22                     ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-02  9:30                       ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-04-02 12:42                         ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 14:16                           ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-04-03  0:33                           ` Pat Rogers
2001-04-02 13:09                         ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-02 13:40                           ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 23:29                             ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-13 23:11                               ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 14:32                           ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-04-04  7:59             ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-04-04  7:47           ` Mats Karlssohn [this message]
2001-04-06  0:33             ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-09 12:21               ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-04-13 15:51                 ` Tucker Taft
2001-03-27 14:39 ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-27 16:40   ` Mark Biggar
2001-03-27 18:14   ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-27 18:15   ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-27 18:57     ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-27 19:22       ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-27 20:23         ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-27 22:15           ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-27 23:30             ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-03-28  9:54               ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-28 15:20             ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-28 16:12               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-03-28 21:15               ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-28 21:56                 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-29  8:18                 ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-29  8:11               ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-29 14:37                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-29 16:35                   ` Mark Biggar
2001-03-29 19:27                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-29 19:28                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-30  3:41                       ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-30  4:32                         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-30 14:27                           ` Compile time executed functions [OT] Karel Thönissen
2001-03-30 17:30                             ` Scheveningen (Re: Compile time executed functions [OT]) Ray Blaak
2001-03-30 17:39                             ` More {OT] (Was " Brian Rogoff
2001-03-30 23:39                               ` Karel Thönissen
2001-03-30 17:47                         ` Compile time executed functions Brian Hanson
2001-03-30  0:06                     ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-30 15:02                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-30 20:57                         ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 14:26                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-30 17:33                       ` Ray Blaak
2001-03-29  8:25               ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-28  7:17   ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-29  1:35   ` Jon S Anthony
2001-03-27 14:39 ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-27 15:09   ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-27 16:33     ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-27 23:36     ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-28 20:47     ` Mark Lundquist
2001-03-28  7:29   ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-28 22:15     ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-29  8:43       ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-31  4:12         ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-05  7:06           ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-04-13 23:18             ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-29  5:02     ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-28  7:31 ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-03-30  8:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
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