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From: Cesar Rabak <csrabak@uol.com.br>
Subject: Re: Increased Interest In Ada?
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:34:59 -0300
Date: 2001-02-25T21:34:59-03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A99A4B3.694445DD@uol.com.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A992067.5D3A1408@acm.org

Marin David Condic wrote:
> 
> I've seen plenty of development kits wherein some company will sell you a
> developmental version of their SBC, the cross compiler, (related tools), cable to
> your PC & documentation for in the neighborhood of $500. (Of course, this is with
> C as the programming language.) That ought to be within the budget of the serious
> student if it was used for more than one class.

Besides being within the budget it must in the so called "mind share".
$500 may do a descent upgrade in the PC box (out monitor)!

Some time ago I taught in a technical school and they used some Rigel
boards (www.rigelcorp.com). They had some very affordable boards which
would be within budget even of hobbyists (IIRC < US$100).

In this price range, I'm affraid we'll get stuck to the present
situation! Only people who 'fall in love with Ada' will purchase for
their own...


> It would at least be within the
> budget of the school's computer lab to have 3 or 4 available for student's to do
> their lab work on. A company selling the kit might give away several sets of their
> documentation or make them available at an inexpensive price, so I don't see much
> standing in the way of students getting the material they need.

Yes, for schools' labs this is a feasible range.
Also I think you're quite right one (or more, let's try to be optimistic
;-) textbooks will also make a difference.

> 
> The real problem is having a similar environment with an Ada compiler. No
> technical reason why it couldn't exist at a similar price - just apparently not an
> economic powerhouse or someone would have likely done it by now.
> 

Yes I feel this is turning to be the 'chicken and egg' problem. As the
perceived use of Ada is diminishing, the perceived opportunity for the
teaching material has the same trend. Also be in the corporate or
embedded systems realms, less and less Ada is being tought as a
"mainstream" language. So right now nor the powerhouse, it seems to be
seen as a flashlight battery!


> (My favorite Alan Greenspan joke: Greenspan is walking down the street with his
> wife. His wife sees a $20 bill on the ground and points it out to Alan. He
> replies: "You must be mistaken dear. If there were a $20 bill on the ground,
> someone would have picked it up by now!")

Neat!



  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-26  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-08 19:12 Increased Interest In Ada? Marin David Condic
2001-02-08 20:36 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-09  0:16   ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-08 20:40 ` BSCrawford
2001-02-08 23:17   ` JF Harrison
2001-02-09 13:33     ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-09 16:41       ` David Botton
2001-02-09 13:08   ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-02-09 13:38     ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-09 14:24       ` Ian Wild
2001-02-09 18:40         ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-09  9:35 ` Preben Randhol
2001-02-09 13:36   ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-09 14:36     ` Preben Randhol
2001-02-09 21:21     ` Ehud Lamm
2001-02-09 21:25     ` Jeffrey D. Cherry
2001-02-12 17:43       ` Stephen Leake
2001-02-13 15:14         ` Jerry Petrey
2001-02-20 20:27   ` Frank
2001-02-21 14:51     ` Preben Randhol
2001-02-21 15:18       ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-21 20:54         ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-21 22:56           ` Jerry Petrey
2001-02-22 10:43           ` Peter Amey
2001-02-22 14:27             ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-27 11:28               ` Peter Amey
2001-02-23  4:58           ` Cesar Rabak
2001-02-23 15:15             ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-24 21:40               ` Cesar Rabak
2001-02-25 15:10                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-26  0:34                   ` Cesar Rabak [this message]
2001-02-26 14:51                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-26 21:23                       ` non-Ada, was " tmoran
2001-02-22 11:56         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-02-23 15:17           ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-23 17:22             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-02-23 20:40               ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-13 15:01                 ` John Kern
2001-02-23 19:49             ` James Rogers
2001-02-23 20:47               ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-23 21:08               ` Randy Brukardt
2001-02-23 21:21             ` Hans-Olof Danielsson
2001-02-23 22:26               ` Jerry Petrey
2001-03-05 19:00               ` Rush Kester
2001-03-05 19:00               ` Rush Kester
2001-03-10 18:52                 ` Singlespeeder
2001-03-13 14:55             ` John Kern
2001-02-26 23:49         ` Model railroad package (was: Re: Increased Interest In Ada?) Dirk Craeynest
2001-03-10  3:37         ` Increased Interest In Ada? DuckE
2001-03-12 14:53           ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-13  7:50             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-03-13 14:48               ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-13 15:42                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-03-13 16:31                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-14  2:13                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-03-14 21:36                   ` Tucker Taft
2001-03-14 21:48                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-15 16:11                       ` Tucker Taft
2001-03-15 18:18                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-15 18:37                           ` Tucker Taft
2001-03-16  9:20                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
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