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From: Pierre Dissaux <pierre.dissaux@tni.fr>
Subject: Re: UML (Was: Ada to C++ translator?)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:14:35 +0100
Date: 2001-02-15T12:14:35+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A8BBA1B.41C67EA6@tni.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3zofoe5ug.fsf@blight.transcend.org

Ray Blaak wrote:
> 
> Nick Williams <nickw@acm.org> writes:
> 
> > Ken Garlington wrote:
> > Rose 98i will code generate package specifications and stubbed bodies;
> > as well as basic accessor subprograms, but it's quite clear that UML is
> > not sufficient to convey the full semantic meaning of a reverse
> > engineered program.
> 
> Nor should it be. UML is about describing software designs. The full details of
> the implementation are ... in the implementation.
> 
> One would not even want to describe the full implementation in a UML model. The
> level of abstraction is all wrong.
> 

HOOD (Hierarchical Object Oriented Design) method offers a better
approach at this level:

- easy to use graphical notation for Architectural Design: based on the
concept of Module which always maps an Ada package (it may represent a
class like UML, or any other software abstraction you can find in an Ada
application). The method helps minimizing dependencies between the
modules.
- comprehensive textual notation for Detailed Design: all design
documentation and code fits into a normalized textual structure (called
ODS).
- program structure (packages, dependencies,...) and behavioural code
(tasking, ...) can be automatically generated whereas procedural code
and more complex declarations are hand written, but within a well
defined framework and under the control of a tool (controlling the
dependencies again).
- supports Ada reverse engineering

for further information:
http://www.tni.fr/tni/offre/stood/index.eng.html

Pierre Dissaux,
TNI

> Just consider the work required to put this on some sort of UML diagram:
> 
>   for i := 1..10 loop
>     Ada.Text_IO.Print(Integer'Image(i));
>   end loop;
> 
> One would have to tediously draw out all sorts of nit-picky details. The
> diagram won't necessarily be comprehensible either.  It is far more succinct
> and understandable to simply write and/or look at the code.
> 
> The important information to put in a UML model is that which lets the reader
> know what the major pieces of a system are, and how they relate. That is, the
> reader leaves with a decent understanding of how to go about implementing the
> system. The precise realization of the design is more properly described in the
> code.
> 
> Cheers,                                        The Rhythm is around me,
>                                                The Rhythm has control.
> Ray Blaak                                      The Rhythm is inside me,
> blaak@infomatch.com                            The Rhythm has my soul.



  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-15 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-09 19:17 Ada to C++ translator? Robert Brantley
2001-02-09 20:48 ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-02-09 23:35   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-02-09 23:47   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-02-12 15:07     ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-12 15:49       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-02-13 19:36         ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-12 20:25       ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-02-11 10:36 ` Gautier
2001-02-11 11:15   ` Pascal Obry
2001-02-11 11:15   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-02-12 10:36     ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-02-11 13:15   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-02-11 14:50   ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-11 15:58   ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-11 17:05   ` Aaro Koskinen
2001-02-15 23:47   ` Robert Brantley
2001-02-16 15:20     ` Ted Dennison
     [not found]       ` <cyik6.1725$DE.61421700@newssvr10-int.news.prodigy.com>
     [not found]         ` <%Wvk6.102$aw5.380@www.newsranger.com>
2001-02-21  0:33           ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-21 10:54             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-02-21 12:40               ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-21 12:56                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-02-21 18:36             ` Brian Rogoff
2001-02-21 19:05               ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-21 21:26                 ` Simon Wright
2001-02-23 21:05                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-24  8:38                     ` Simon Wright
2001-02-24 16:22                     ` Nick Williams
2001-02-24 19:22                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-24 19:38                         ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-25 15:21                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-12 15:33 ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-12 22:34   ` UML (Was: Ada to C++ translator?) Frode Tennebø
2001-02-14  4:48     ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-14  6:19       ` Ray Blaak
2001-02-14 20:38       ` Nick Williams
2001-02-15  7:57         ` Ray Blaak
2001-02-15 11:14           ` Pierre Dissaux [this message]
2001-02-15 23:37   ` Ada to C++ translator? Robert Brantley
2001-02-16  0:34     ` tmoran
2001-02-16  4:59       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-02-16 15:20         ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-16 11:02     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-02-16 13:34       ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-16 14:55         ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-16 21:04         ` tmoran
2001-02-16 15:44     ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-21 13:21       ` Bob Jacobs
2001-02-21 14:14         ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-21 14:59           ` Bob Jacobs
2001-02-21 15:58         ` Martin Dowie
2001-02-21 16:15           ` Bob Jacobs
2001-02-21 16:57             ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-22  1:39               ` Andrew Berg
2001-02-22  9:47                 ` STL for Ada (was: Re: Ada to C++ translator?) Stefan Nobis
2001-02-22 15:20                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-02-22 15:30                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-22 17:55                   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-02-22  9:09             ` Ada to C++ translator? Martin Dowie
2001-02-22 13:32               ` Bob Jacobs
2001-02-22 14:30               ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-22  9:17             ` Martin Dowie
2001-02-15 23:09 ` Robert Brantley
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