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From: Tucker Taft <stt@averstar.com>
Subject: Re: Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:46:51 -0500
Date: 2001-02-05T19:46:52+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A7F032B.380BD35D@averstar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 95da8h$13s$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Robert Dewar wrote:
> 
> In article <3A79FE73.3D7F12A0@home.com>,
>   "Larry J. Elmore" <ljelmore@home.com> wrote:
> > Nick Roberts wrote:
> 
> > > I believe the original 'Ada chip' (as such) was the Intel
> > > 432, many moons
> > > ago (a 16-bit single backplane multiprocessor
> > > architecture). Sadly, it was
> > > cancelled due to lack of intere$t*.
> > >
> > > (Anyway, you don't need an Ada-specific CPU, you only need
> > > an Ada-specific OS ;-)
> 
> The i432 was a very odd design, which was certainly not done
> with Ada in mind (not clear *what* was in mind, this chip was
> doomed to fail, since it was impossible to implement
> efficiently). ...
> Nothing could have rescued it in my opinion. The design had the
> appearence of being done by high level language folks with no
> view of what could be implemented efficiently. There was really
> nothing specifically Ada about the design.

I thought the 432 was an attempt to implement many of the
ideas of the capability-based Hydra operating system in hardware.

Capability-based operating systems were pretty hot for a while,
but someone forgot that 90% of the usefulness of an operating system 
(as opposed to a real-time executive) is at the shell/tool level, and
Hydra never got there.  Mach, which was a follow-on to the
Hydra work, included a Unix emulator on top of it, and that is
probably what has kept it alive so long, and now appearing in a local
MacOS-X near you... 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-02-05 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-27 16:47 Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM? chris.danx
2001-01-27 21:17 ` David Starner
2001-01-28  8:44   ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-29 23:40     ` Ronald Cole
2001-01-30  1:27       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-30  8:28       ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-30 19:29         ` Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM? ms .net vm Singlespeeder
2001-02-01  0:01         ` Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM? Ronald Cole
2001-02-01  7:32           ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-02 17:33             ` Ray Blaak
2001-02-01 11:57           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-02-01 17:35             ` Ray Blaak
2001-02-01 16:19           ` joswig
2001-01-30 21:12   ` Nick Roberts
2001-02-02  0:19     ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-02-02  3:41       ` Robert Dewar
2001-02-03  3:49         ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-02-05 19:46         ` Tucker Taft [this message]
2001-02-05 20:31           ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-05 20:58           ` Pat Rogers
2001-01-27 22:31 ` gdemont
2001-01-30  2:41 ` Julian Morrison
2001-01-30  7:08   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-01-30 12:55   ` John English
2001-01-31 21:05   ` chris.danx
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