From: "Larry J. Elmore" <ljelmore@home.com>
Subject: Re: Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM?
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 03:49:14 GMT
Date: 2001-02-03T03:49:14+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A7B8123.7A1B80B9@home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 95da8h$13s$1@nnrp1.deja.com
Robert Dewar wrote:
> In article <3A79FE73.3D7F12A0@home.com>,
> "Larry J. Elmore" <ljelmore@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, it's failure was also perceived by many to
> > also be the failure of the ideas behind the architecture.
>
> Entirely fair, the design was misconceived
It's been a _long_ time since I've read anything detailed on the 432,
but it seemed to me that some of its ideas had merit -- at least if your
goal was safety and reliability, not speed. Whether that might be better
done by software I honestly don't know.
> > The 432 might not have been a stellar performer even with the best
> possible implementation of the
> > architecture
>
> Indeed.
Yes, I should have said _could not_, not "might not".
>
> > but a lot of truly terrible decisions were made in its actual
> > implementation that effectively crippled it.
>
> Nothing could have rescued it in my opinion. The design had the
> appearence of being done by high level language folks with no
> view of what could be implemented efficiently.
Then those who implemented the hardware made things even worse.
> There was really
> nothing specifically Ada about the design.
Custom microcode could be provided, though. I remember reading an
article about a 432 with microcode specifically written to support
Smalltalk's VM. I don't specifically recall what the performance was,
but the combination of the 432 and Smalltalk must've been truly
glacial...
Larry
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-27 16:47 Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM? chris.danx
2001-01-27 21:17 ` David Starner
2001-01-28 8:44 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-29 23:40 ` Ronald Cole
2001-01-30 1:27 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-30 8:28 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-30 19:29 ` Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM? ms .net vm Singlespeeder
2001-02-01 0:01 ` Ada and JVM? Why not AdaVM? Ronald Cole
2001-02-01 7:32 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-02 17:33 ` Ray Blaak
2001-02-01 11:57 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-02-01 17:35 ` Ray Blaak
2001-02-01 16:19 ` joswig
2001-01-30 21:12 ` Nick Roberts
2001-02-02 0:19 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-02-02 3:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-02-03 3:49 ` Larry J. Elmore [this message]
2001-02-05 19:46 ` Tucker Taft
2001-02-05 20:31 ` Ted Dennison
2001-02-05 20:58 ` Pat Rogers
2001-01-27 22:31 ` gdemont
2001-01-30 2:41 ` Julian Morrison
2001-01-30 7:08 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-01-30 12:55 ` John English
2001-01-31 21:05 ` chris.danx
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