From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@home.com>
Subject: Re: Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:57:06 GMT
Date: 2001-01-09T21:57:06+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A5B886B.DD3B1431@home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 93fq4o$6j7$1@nnrp1.deja.com
Robert Dewar wrote:
>
> In article <93fnao$49u$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> dmitry6243@my-deja.com wrote:
> > It must be as insolent as "Ada is an extension of
> > C++ especially designed for Windows", then it works.
>
> Well I don't think we will be hiring you for Ada awareness
> advertising, despite your charming certainty that you know
> the true way to make Ada popular :-)
>
> > But everybody is saying that C++ is for anything. There is no
> > place for correctness in market wars.
>
> Promoting languages is not easy. You should study the IBM
> experience with PL/1, and also the failure of Java on Windows
> as examples. The former is ancient history, the latter is
> ancient history.
>
> There is no magic to explain why a language is successful, it
> really depends on being in the right place at the right time
> with an implementation that presents the right environment for
> the tasks at hand. After all remember that Visual Basic is
> vastly more successful than C or C++ on the PC!
I believe that one thing that held back Ada for the masses, was
the size of the compiler, and its availability. All of that has
changed now.
Today, gnat no longer consumes your system when it compiles and
it is freely available now. This could actually turn the tables
for Open Source developers (at least) if you can only convince
developers to give it an honest try.
--
Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
http://members.home.net/ve3wwg
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2000-12-31 16:09 What to Do? Petra Lynn Hofman
2000-12-31 16:58 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-31 17:41 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-01 15:24 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:18 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 15:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 15:14 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 21:22 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 15:15 ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-31 18:06 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-12-31 21:07 ` tmoran
2001-01-01 16:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:08 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-01 17:53 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: " Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-01 18:29 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-01 20:25 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 19:03 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:22 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 22:23 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-02 22:27 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-01 20:26 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 19:05 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:24 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 22:53 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-03 18:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-03 19:22 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-04 1:18 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-01 19:28 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-02 14:56 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-03 3:32 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-04 1:02 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-04 3:53 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-04 12:04 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-04 13:48 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-01-06 20:23 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-04 17:09 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-04 20:30 ` Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-05 9:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 9:57 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-01-05 10:41 ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 13:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-05 14:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-06 17:17 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 8:51 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 4:00 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 10:20 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 12:34 ` Karel Thoenissen
2001-01-09 14:18 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 15:29 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-01-09 19:25 ` tmoran
2001-01-09 20:11 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-09 14:20 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10 2:08 ` Keith Thompson
[not found] ` <93e2d1$spv$1@ <3A5B054B.3CF03325@hello.nl>
2001-01-09 22:05 ` Simon Wright
2001-01-05 15:35 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-01-05 19:20 ` Object naming conventions (was: Do we need "Mission-Critical" software?) Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-06 17:30 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-06 17:24 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 9:14 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 0:28 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-09 8:35 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 2:21 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-09 2:34 ` DuckE
2001-01-09 4:12 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 9:12 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 12:24 ` David Gillon
2001-01-09 12:58 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-01-09 13:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-09 14:00 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-12 0:21 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-12 1:24 ` Al Christians
2001-01-12 5:19 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-12 18:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-09 14:27 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 15:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 19:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:44 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-10 13:49 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 20:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 23:04 ` tmoran
2001-01-27 16:58 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2001-01-10 16:37 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-01-10 19:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-11 1:43 ` Frank Manning
2001-01-09 16:12 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 19:48 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:43 ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-01-10 20:43 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 13:41 ` JOVIAL (was Do we need "Mission-Critical" software?) Ken Garlington
2001-01-12 15:32 ` carr_tom
2001-01-12 16:58 ` Ira D. Baxter
2001-01-22 23:18 ` jls
2001-01-13 14:20 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 10:41 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? David Kristola
2001-01-10 13:44 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 21:39 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10 11:47 ` n_brunot
2001-01-10 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-10 21:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 10:00 ` n_brunot
2001-01-12 0:42 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-12 1:47 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-12 16:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-16 19:52 ` Do we need any Dewar-bashing? Wes Groleau
2001-01-09 19:03 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? dmitry6243
2001-01-09 19:51 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:46 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-09 21:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG [this message]
2001-01-10 8:55 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-10 13:39 ` Pascal Obry
2001-01-11 8:58 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-11 21:01 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 11:41 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-12 20:29 ` Subprogram types vs. "limited access" (was " mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 21:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2001-01-13 1:35 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 1:20 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 17:29 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-15 21:06 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 0:32 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 2:57 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 5:47 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 17:47 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 9:12 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-16 20:04 ` Wes Groleau
2001-02-02 6:45 ` Java packages (was " mark_lundquist
2001-01-15 20:04 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-15 20:28 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-01-15 21:05 ` tmoran
2001-01-16 0:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 13:23 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-15 21:44 ` Tucker Taft
2001-01-15 22:26 ` BSCrawford
2001-01-23 2:19 ` Lao Xiao Hai
[not found] ` <94kkme$amg$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
2001-01-26 20:43 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-27 9:36 ` David Kristola
2001-01-27 21:54 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-27 23:09 ` Pat Rogers
2001-01-28 22:30 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-09 13:37 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-12 1:11 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-09 14:52 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-10 10:26 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 21:43 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 18:51 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-11 20:11 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 11:49 ` Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-12 19:19 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 20:20 ` Wes Groleau
2001-01-04 16:48 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-05 13:15 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-06 20:19 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 21:37 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 21:44 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-03 4:00 ` William Starner
2001-01-01 23:44 ` David Kristola
2001-01-02 0:41 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-02 3:14 ` tmoran
2001-01-02 20:35 ` David Kristola
2001-01-02 22:56 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 7:38 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-02 15:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:59 ` What to Do? Silly Valley JF Harrison
2001-01-02 23:22 ` William Dale
2001-01-06 20:45 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-08 18:15 ` William Dale
2001-01-08 19:00 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-08 19:01 ` Florian Weimer
2000-12-31 21:47 ` What to Do? Robert Love
2001-01-01 21:31 ` Robert Love
2001-01-10 22:06 ` km0762
2001-01-10 22:06 ` km0762
2001-01-11 0:00 ` James Rogers
2001-01-11 1:03 ` Al Christians
2001-01-29 16:09 ` spider_templar2
2001-01-11 13:57 ` John English
2001-01-11 18:00 ` William Dale
2001-01-12 0:27 ` John English
2001-01-12 2:57 ` David Botton
2001-01-13 3:34 ` Petra Lynn Hofman
2001-01-13 6:05 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 13:52 ` Ken Garlington
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