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From: Philip Anderson <phil.anderson@amsjv.com>
Subject: OT ae [was Re: Bad coding standards]
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:03:25 +0000
Date: 2000-12-14T13:03:25+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A38C51D.C7D15F8B@amsjv.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 91adsb$ipp$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Robert Dewar wrote:
<snip>

> Warning: non-Ada diversion
> 
> P.S. is aesthetics an allowable spelling in American
> english? I don't have an American dictionary at hand.
> The OED only permits the use of "e" or the ae letter
> which I can't even write in this ASCII character set,
> but does not permit a separate a and e character.

I don't have an OED (or other Oxford dictionary) to hand, but Chambers
(also) UK does not use the 'ae' ligature in aesthetics or any other 'ae'
combination that I can see, with the exception of 'aesc', an Old English
rune.  This represented the sound also written as ligatured 'ae'in Old
English, a vowel distinct from and further forward than 'a' (pronounced
as in 'cat' in my speech), and hence was a distinct letter.

Usually, 'ae' comes from Latin and in the middle of words often
represents Greek 'ai'.  In inscriptions, the Romans often ligatured
letters together, not just AE; in Late and Church Latin, it tended to
turn into plain 'e'.

Do the uses cited by the OED for aesthetics etc use the ligature I
wonder, or is it just the OED house-style?  I rather doubt if there is a
commonly-accepted rule, let lone a definitive one.

Socrates talked about his 'daimon', and it's usually 'translated' like
that to avoid the connotations of 'demon' I guess.

-- 
hwyl/cheers,
Philip Anderson
Alenia Marconi Systems
Cwmbr�n, Cymru/Wales



  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-14 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-14  2:32 Bad coding standards Beard, Frank
2000-12-14 12:19 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-14 13:03   ` Philip Anderson [this message]
2000-12-14 14:08     ` OT ae [was Re: Bad coding standards] Ken Garlington
2000-12-14 14:19   ` American English (was: Bad coding standards) John English
2000-12-14 15:07     ` Graeme
2000-12-15 13:16       ` The Design Zone (was Re: American English) Marc A. Criley
2000-12-14 15:14     ` American English (was: Bad coding standards) Marin David Condic
2000-12-14 17:38     ` Brian Rogoff
2000-12-15 16:12       ` John English
2000-12-14 14:03 ` Bad coding standards Ken Garlington
2000-12-14 20:14   ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-15  1:10     ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-18 16:09     ` Tucker Taft
2000-12-18 18:59       ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-18 22:20         ` Georg Bauhaus
2000-12-19 15:51           ` Tucker Taft
2000-12-19 16:12             ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-19 16:01           ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-19 15:49         ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-19 16:36           ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-20  1:52             ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-20 12:58               ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-20 14:27                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-21 23:19                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-03 19:49                     ` Wes Groleau
2001-01-06 19:45                       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-12-20 11:56             ` Mario Amado Alves
2000-12-19 18:05           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-12-19 15:42       ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-15  0:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
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