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From: Marin David Condic <mcondic.nospam@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Ada Streams usage (was Escape Sequences in Strings)
Date: 2000/11/16
Date: 2000-11-16T23:51:04+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A1472B7.C11FDCB1@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8v15uq$lq9$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Ted Dennison wrote:

> > I suppose I was thinking more along the lines of "difficult" real time
> > systems. :-)
> Well, I don't know if there is a good word for that, but there probably
> ought to be. A lot of embedded real-time work is done on older (slower)
> microprocessors due to the cost factor.
>

A few years back I did a rocket engine job that used a MilStd-1750a. It was
Rad-Hard, bog slow and we were restricted to 64kwords of memory. (Using the
extended address spaces would have only made it slower. We didn't have board
realestate anyway.) By the time we were done with the job, we were upwards
of 93% CPU utilization and we were all sweating bullets that something was
going to drive it over the edge. In that kind of environment, you REALLY get
sensitive to the cost of every little data motion or procedure call
overhead. You get REALLY tricky in what you can coax out of the compiler and
how you can speed up every little operation.

I think so long as we have computers, there will be jobs we want to do with
them that will drive them to their limits. Hence I think we'll always be
worried about the kind of code we get out of enbedded system compilers. Most
apps won't care about the overhead involved with streams - whats a few
hundred milliseconds for an app that wants to load/store its data using
streams or send a message down a TCP/IP pipe across the Internet? But that
isn't the whole universe of applications. :-)

MDC
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Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-15  0:00 Escape Sequences in Strings Jean Cohen
2000-11-15  0:00 ` John English
2000-11-15  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-15  0:00     ` Ehud Lamm
2000-11-16  0:00       ` John English
2000-11-16  0:00         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-11-16  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-16  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-16  0:00             ` Keith Thompson
2000-11-16  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-15  0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-11-15  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-16  0:00   ` Ada Streams usage (was Escape Sequences in Strings) Marc A. Criley
2000-11-16  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-16  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-16  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-16  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-16  0:00             ` Marin David Condic [this message]
     [not found]     ` <igh81t8b3hdrsc167do6qr0h1joa73c1jr@borpin.co.uk>
2000-11-18  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-18  0:00         ` David Kristola
2000-11-19  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-19  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-20  0:00               ` Brian Orpin
2000-11-20  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-19  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-19  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-19  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-20  0:00               ` Randy Brukardt
2000-11-21  0:00                 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-21  0:00                   ` Randy Brukardt
2000-11-21  1:31                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-21  1:33                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-21  0:00                   ` Randy Brukardt
2000-11-22  5:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-20  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-21  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-19  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-19  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-12 13:18 ` Escape Sequences in Strings Andrew Hately
2001-01-12 20:03   ` Keith Thompson
2001-01-18  8:29     ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-18 15:22       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-18 22:43         ` Randy Brukardt
2001-01-21 11:54         ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-01-21 22:35           ` directly accessing DOS screen memory (was: Re: Escape Sequences in Strings) Jeffrey Carter
2001-01-12 19:37 ` Escape Sequences in Strings tmoran
2001-01-13  1:38   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13  6:48     ` tmoran
2001-01-13 18:36       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16  3:30         ` Examples in Docs, was " peter_richtmyer
2001-01-16  5:42           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 20:44             ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 22:43               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-17 15:06                 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-17  2:25               ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-17 15:28                 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-17 16:20                 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-17 18:04                   ` Wayne Lydecker
2001-01-17 19:23                     ` BSCrawford
2001-01-18  0:15                       ` Jerry Petrey
2001-01-19  0:01                     ` tmoran
2001-01-18  3:44                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-18 16:45                     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-18 19:53                       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-18 22:58                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-19 16:40                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-19  7:49                         ` Learning methods Anders Wirzenius
2001-01-19 18:57                         ` Examples in Docs, was Re: Escape Sequences in Strings mark_lundquist
2001-01-21 12:05                         ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-01-21 15:35                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-17 22:10                 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-01-18  3:52                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 16:06           ` Examples in Docs Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-01-16 21:29             ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-18  0:50               ` Randy Brukardt
2001-01-18 16:46                 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-18 17:24               ` J. David Bryan
2001-01-17  2:43             ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-17 21:17               ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-01-16 20:01           ` Examples in Docs, was Re: Escape Sequences in Strings mark_lundquist
2001-01-17 10:59             ` Peter Richtmyer
2001-01-19 18:55               ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-20 14:24                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-20 14:36                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-20 15:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-21 11:24                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-22 14:47                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-22 20:08                           ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-22 20:14                             ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-20 19:02                   ` Stephen Leake
2001-01-20 19:50                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-21 11:35                     ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-22 23:58                   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-01-27  1:43                   ` Increasing the readability of Ada was RE: Examples in Docs Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
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