From: "E. Robert Tisdale" <edwin@netwood.net>
Subject: Re: Ada vs. C++ in defense projects
Date: 2000/11/04
Date: 2000-11-04T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A0465CD.DAE60D49@netwood.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: upXM5.31928$78.9599314@news3.rdc1.on.home.com
Jeff Stimson wrote:
> Most of my career has been based on writing applications in Ada.
> That has changed recently
> since absolutely no one wants anything other than C++ right now.
> I've just ramped up in C++ and am doing projects with it.
> I am not new to C since I have also used that for a number of years.
>
> My God.
> Is everyone blind to the inherent dangers in programming with C++?
> My last project in Ada (about 20K SLOC)
> was delivered to the customer about 8 months ago with no defects.
> That's zero, zip, 0, nadda.
> We have heard nothing back from them in terms of problems or bugs.
> I know for a fact that the current project (approx. same size) in C++
> will not turn out the same.
>
> I really despair at the disappearance of Ada, and it is going away.
> We can fight and scream all we want
> but it is not being taught in colleges or universities,
> it is not being promoted by companies that have influence,
> and it still has a stigma with being 'that military language'.
Ada has made you lazy and careless.
You can write programs in C that are just as safe
by the simple application of super-human diligence.
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-10-30 16:04 Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:03 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-30 18:25 ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-30 20:41 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:30 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-30 21:36 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-30 22:01 ` James Rogers
2000-11-01 14:38 ` John Kern
2000-11-01 16:16 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-30 22:17 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-31 4:10 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-31 14:52 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-31 16:50 ` mjsilva
2000-10-31 17:06 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-31 17:39 ` mjsilva
2000-11-01 2:39 ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-01 3:19 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-01 19:27 ` Tucker Taft
2000-11-01 20:04 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02 0:37 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 0:42 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02 3:16 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 3:48 ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-02 12:38 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 13:33 ` Gautier
2000-11-03 5:30 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Ada vs. C++ in defense projects Michael P. Card
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Jeff Stimson
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Robert Love
2000-11-04 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale [this message]
2000-11-05 0:57 ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-31 8:06 ` Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Pascal Obry
2000-10-31 14:53 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-10-31 15:17 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-31 21:10 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-10-31 21:17 ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-31 21:13 ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-04 3:08 ` DuckE
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Frode Tennebø
2000-11-07 0:17 ` mark
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-18 0:00 ` John Magness
2000-11-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-19 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Lao Xiao Hai
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-03 0:00 Ada vs. C++ in defense projects michael_p_card
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Tom Hargraves
2000-11-05 2:31 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-11-05 4:35 ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-05 5:42 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-05 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-11-06 0:00 ` John Griffiths
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