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From: "Robert I. Eachus" <rieachus@earthlink.net>
Subject: E. E. Cummings (was Re: Three simple questions)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 07:24:37 GMT
Date: 2000-11-03T07:24:37+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A026839.51544D4F@earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8sg7bj$fon$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Robert Dewar wrote:

> Assuming there was no missing smiley here and that Larry
> was serious (which may be a silly assumption), I will say
> that I know exactly what Bob means, and I do the same
> myself. It is analogous to knowing that the following
> sentence is malformed.
> 
> E.e. cummings was one of the last centuries most brilliant
> poets.

I think it should be:

 "E. E. Cummings was one of this century's most brilliant poets."

Normally I don't pick on errors in grammar or punctuation, but there are
some errors that need a lot of stamping out:
 
"The poet replied on 1 March 1951: "E.E.Cummings, unless your printer
prefers E. E. Cummings/ titlepage up to you;but may it not be tricksy
svp[.]" 

(from http://www.gvsu.edu/english/cummings/caps2.html, which has a neat
Fifth Wave cartoon to tempt you.)

As to the rest of the sentence, I am fairly sure that Robert meant to
use the possessive not the plural of century, but in this case both are
potentially right!  If I change the phrase to "of the last few
centuries," now the possessive seems wrong, but if I extend the phrase
to "the last few century's brilliant poets," we are back to the
possessive.  I could assume that it has to be the plural, since we are
still in the twentieth century, but E. E. Cummings was born in 1894. My
version doesn't raise quite as many questions.

Back to the topic at hand, I try very hard not to start a sentence with
a word which should not be capitalized, and go out of my way to avoid
starting a sentence with a number:  "The book, _1984_ by George
Orwell..." rather than "_1984_ by George Orwell.."

What do I do when I can't avoid the problem?  I avoid it anyway. ;-)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-11-03  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-09  0:00 Three simple questions Frank Christiny
2000-10-09  0:00 ` John McCabe
2000-10-09  0:00   ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Case for case-sensitivity (Was: Three simple questions) Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-10-12  0:00           ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-10  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-10  0:00           ` John Magness
2000-10-10  0:00         ` tmoran
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-12  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  0:00             ` nickerson
2000-10-15  1:48               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-10-11  0:00         ` dmitry6243
2000-10-11  4:39         ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-10  0:00     ` Three simple questions John English
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-10  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-11  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-11  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  0:00                   ` The AI process (was: Three simple questions) Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                     ` Marc A. Criley
2000-10-12  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-16  0:00                   ` Three simple questions Robert A Duff
2000-10-11  0:11       ` wv12
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  3:25           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00             ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` David Starner
2000-10-18  0:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-19  0:00                     ` David Starner
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-10-23  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-28 11:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:56                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:57                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-10-16  3:10               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00             ` James Hassett
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-11  0:00         ` David Gillon
2000-10-11  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  2:12         ` DuckE
2000-10-10  0:47   ` Larry Elmore
2000-10-10  1:16     ` Ed Falis
2000-10-11  3:47       ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-13  0:00         ` Philippe Torres
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-10-10  0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  3:59   ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-10  0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Larry Hazel
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
     [not found]         ` <39EAEEEA.4F58C47C@cepsz.unizar.es>
2000-10-16  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-16  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:43                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-03  7:24                   ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
2000-10-17  0:00               ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  0:37       ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Richard Kenner
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-16  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-17  0:00           ` Ronald Cole
2000-10-17  0:00         ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  1:05   ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  3:28         ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Simon Wright
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
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