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From: Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org>
Subject: Re: NOACE- End of the road for Ada?
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:49:33 -0500
Date: 2005-03-15T23:49:33-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39ps66F61nfanU1@individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <thehouseofcards-48E373.19254613032005@news.verizon.net>

Michael Card wrote:
> The only rationale I can come up with to explain the Dod's anti-Ada bias 
> is that some high-up folks in the Pentagon didn't like it, maybe because 
> it was from DISA (I get the feeling DISA is one of the lesser-loved 
> branches of the DoD). This distaste for Ada by the services themselves 
> (USN, USA, USMC, USAF) would certainly be quickly mirrored by the 
> contractors, since the services are the ones paying them, not DISA. So, 

Probably partly right.  My experience, however, leads me to suspect
that part of the problem is some officer who has no clue what 
programming really is, much less software engineering, but he has
been playing with a PC at home for years.  He has managed to do a
few trivial but "COOL" programs at home with C++ or Java and that
plus the popular press has convinced him that Java and C++ are
where it's at.  Then he gets transferred to an acquisition job, ....

I am aware of a situation where a Java hacker working for a
defense contractor had a prototype GUI with practically no
functionality implemented.  Some military officer saw it and
asked how soon it could be delivered.  A few months later,
thousands of lines of Java were given a pretend peer review, ....

-- 
Wes Groleau

Truth often suffers more from the heat of its defenders
than from the arguments of its opposers.
                        -- William Penn



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-16  4:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-10  2:33 NOACE- End of the road for Ada? Michael Card
2005-03-10  4:33 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 13:42   ` Michael Card
2005-03-10 21:57     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-03-11  4:53     ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 21:39   ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-03-12 19:08 ` svaa
2005-03-13  1:59   ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 12:44     ` svaa
2005-03-13 14:22       ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 14:56         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-13 21:50         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-13 23:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-13 23:20         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-14  0:25           ` Michael Card
2005-03-14  2:11             ` Ed Falis
2005-03-14  2:29               ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-16  4:49             ` Wes Groleau [this message]
2005-03-14  2:22           ` Jeff C
2005-03-13 17:23       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-13 18:42 ` adaworks
2005-03-13 19:58   ` Peter C. Chapin
2005-03-13 20:14     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-14  5:13   ` Jared
2005-03-14 13:42     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-15  0:34       ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-15 10:52         ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-16  5:15           ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-16 17:42             ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17  2:34               ` adaworks
2005-03-17 13:25                 ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17 15:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 12:34                     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17  4:56               ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-17 13:56                 ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-18 22:22                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-19 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17 14:54                 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-18  1:26                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-30  8:46                 ` jtg
2005-03-15  4:00     ` adaworks
2005-03-16 20:18       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-17  2:48         ` adaworks
2005-03-17  3:54         ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-18  2:45           ` adaworks
2005-03-18  3:45             ` Wes Groleau
2005-03-18  8:43               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 13:04               ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-18 14:03                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-03-20 13:47       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-20 17:29         ` adaworks
2005-03-21 13:07           ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-21 13:59             ` Peter Hermann
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