From: Tucker Taft <stt@averstar.com>
Subject: Re: Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:03:54 -0500
Date: 2000-10-30T18:03:55+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <39FDB80A.728339A9@averstar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: VZgL5.34$pq3.5686@news.flash.net
Ken Garlington wrote:
>
> While looking at the SIGAda 2000 web site, I notice that the role of Ada in
> defense applications is minimized (even after the explicit requirements in
> this area were dropped). For example, the list of "recent" successful
> Ada-based systems includes only commercial projects, some five years old,
> although one of the most recent Ada success stories occurred just a few days
> ago (October 24). I also notice that an interview last year with Tucker Taft
> included the statement "These days we?re focused mostly on commercial
> success stories..." I can understand wanting to promote commercial
> applications, but isn't this going a little overboard?
In my experience (which is admittedly limited), DoD folks are not
interested in military success stories; they want to see technology
that is commercially successful. Unfortunately, it seems that commercial
folks are also not particularly interested in a language that is associated
with defense. Hence, there seems no particular upside in spending energy
researching defense success stories, as nobody seems to be willing to
use them as a reason to consider Ada.
If the story really emphasized how Ada was *not* mandated, and was chosen
because of its inherent advantages, and it delivered successfully, then
the fact that it was a military project would hopefully not get in the
way of someone using it as a reason to consider Ada. In general, the commercial
marketplace has a bit of a love/hate relationship with the military
marketplace. And the military marketplace seems to have a love/hate relationship
with itself ;-).
>
> http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigada/conf/sigada2000/
> http://206.144.247.86/vol18_no18/interview/118-1.html
> http://www.lmaeronautics.com/news/press/jsf/jsf_1stflight.html
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-Tucker Taft stt@averstar.com http://www.averstar.com/~stt/
Technical Director, Commercial Division, AverStar (formerly Intermetrics)
(http://www.averstar.com/services/IT_consulting.html) Burlington, MA USA
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2000-10-30 16:04 Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:03 ` Tucker Taft [this message]
2000-10-30 18:25 ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-30 20:41 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:30 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-30 21:36 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-30 22:01 ` James Rogers
2000-11-01 14:38 ` John Kern
2000-11-01 16:16 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-30 22:17 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-31 4:10 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-31 14:52 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-31 16:50 ` mjsilva
2000-10-31 17:06 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-31 17:39 ` mjsilva
2000-11-01 2:39 ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-01 3:19 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-01 19:27 ` Tucker Taft
2000-11-01 20:04 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02 0:37 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 0:42 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02 3:16 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 3:48 ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-02 12:38 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 13:33 ` Gautier
2000-11-03 5:30 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Ada vs. C++ in defense projects Michael P. Card
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Jeff Stimson
2000-11-04 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-05 0:57 ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Robert Love
2000-10-31 8:06 ` Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Pascal Obry
2000-10-31 14:53 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-10-31 15:17 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-31 21:10 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-10-31 21:17 ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-31 21:13 ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-18 0:00 ` John Magness
2000-11-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-19 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-04 3:08 ` DuckE
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Frode Tennebø
2000-11-07 0:17 ` mark
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