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From: Igor Kovalenko <Igor.Kovalenko@motorola.com>
Subject: Re: Ada and QNX
Date: 2000/10/16
Date: 2000-10-16T18:00:05+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39EB42B1.A14BDCB6@motorola.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8sf9p0$kpg$1@nnrp1.deja.com

mjsilva@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> In article <39EA9161.6469DDE2@home.com>,
>   Igor Kovalenko <kovalenko@home.com> wrote:
> > Oh, yeah. I bought Ada book some years ago. So many capabilities.
> Couple
> > hundred pages worth of docs printed in small-font.
> 
> You bought -a- book!?  You don't state that you've used Ada, or even
> that you know it, but only that you bought -a- book.  And some years
> ago at that -- maybe it didn't even cover the current standard (Ada 95
> vs. Ada 83).
> 

Sure, I bought a book simply to have it collect some dust. That's very
reasonable assumption given that such fat books are usually rather
expensive.

> Since when does one need to know "the whole damn thing" to use any
> programming language or other complex tool?
> 

Since the time it became obvious that if you don't want the whole Ada
you might as well go with C/C++.

> > Ada is way too high and abstract to be good for system level
> programming
> 
> What low-level system-programming functionality is missing in Ada?  In
> fact Ada has more low-level functionality than C or C++.  It was, after
> all, originally designed for -embedded- applications.
> 

I did not say anything is missing. I said that it is 'too high' which
should mean there is just too much stuff to bear along with what you
really need in most cases.

Note that strictly speaking I never said Ada is wrong thing in general,
I just stated that it is not good for my personal taste. My original
intention was not to denounce Ada, but to say that pissing on C++ does
not do any good for Ada. I see, nobody seems to want to continue the
wedding analogy, but many are happy to let off some steam on me no
matter how many disclaimers I put. I guess it was mistake to give you
guys such an easy target :)

- Igor




  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-09-29  0:00 Ada and QNX Michal Morawski
2000-09-29  0:00 ` Jeff Creem
2000-09-29  0:00   ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-09-29  0:00     ` Jeff Creem
2000-09-30  0:00       ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-03  0:00     ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-09-30  0:00 ` James Boucher
2000-09-30  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
2000-09-30  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-14  0:00     ` ahummmm
2000-10-15  0:00       ` James Boucher
2000-10-15  0:00         ` Steve Bellenot
2000-10-15  0:00       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-16  5:27         ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-16  0:00           ` mjsilva
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Igor Kovalenko [this message]
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-16  0:00               ` mjsilva
2000-11-03  0:00                 ` mark_lundquist
2000-10-17  0:39               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  5:00                 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` aek
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Gautier
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17  0:00                       ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-17  0:00                         ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18  0:00                           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-18  0:00                             ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-18  0:00                               ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18  0:00                             ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-18  0:00                           ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-18  0:00                             ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18  0:00                               ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-17  0:00                       ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Gautier
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16  0:00           ` Gautier
2000-10-16  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16  0:00               ` David Starner
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  5:38                 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-18  0:00                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-10-19  0:00                     ` ADA vs. SmallEiffel Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Ada and QNX Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Gautier
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-17  0:28                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Steffen Huber
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-18  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Frode Tennebø
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-18  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-03  5:11                   ` CMM in outside software (was Re: Ada and QNX) Robert I. Eachus
2000-11-03  5:34                     ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-17  0:00         ` Ada and QNX mjsilva
2000-10-17  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Buyer's Remorse? (was Re: Ada and QNX) mjsilva
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Ada and QNX mjsilva
2000-09-30  0:00   ` gdemont
2000-09-30  2:35 ` DuckE
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