From: Gautier <gautier.demontmollin@maths.unine.ch>
Subject: Re: Ada and QNX
Date: 2000/10/16
Date: 2000-10-16T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <39EB411B.42AA5EF3@maths.unine.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 39EB283A.9F7B4F76@motorola.com
Igor:
> Summarizing what you and others replied, it looks like everything is
> cool with Ada. Just wondering why it is not yet really resurrected and
> blooming and shining in all its glory.
You should take courses about psychology of the masses...
> Perhaps my personal doubts aren't that personal, huh? Nobody appears to
> write an OS in Ada, being so good for system level work. And by the way,
> many people say that GCC does not generate good code for C,
Who says that ?! Did you play the famous Quake 1 game, it is entirely made
with GCC, including graphics...
> so I'm kinda curious how does GNAT manage to generate good code for
> such a more complex language as Ada.
It doesn't matter. With strong typing, GCC-GNAT knows better what animals
are the variables (not just pointers to something) and optimizes indices,
shifts, registers, inlinings, generics etc. nicely. You can take a look at
my pure-software 3D experiments (see link below).
> Aside from code generation itself, how do they
> manage to implement things like rendesvous in an efficient AND portable
> way? Such things normally belong to system-dependent runtime libraries,
> but in Ada they are part of language and having no proof I nevertheless
> suspect that they are implemented by trading efficiency for portability.
For tasking, I can't tell, but e.g. for exceptions, they don't alter at all
performance: they are well implemented !... Anyway you can see the resulting
assembler code (gcc -S -O2 -gnatpn) for checking what GCC/GNAT does...
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-09-29 0:00 Ada and QNX Michal Morawski
2000-09-29 0:00 ` Jeff Creem
2000-09-29 0:00 ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-09-29 0:00 ` Jeff Creem
2000-09-30 0:00 ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-03 0:00 ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-09-30 0:00 ` James Boucher
2000-09-30 0:00 ` gdemont
2000-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-14 0:00 ` ahummmm
2000-10-15 0:00 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-16 5:27 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-16 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-16 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-10-17 0:39 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17 5:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17 0:00 ` aek
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Gautier [this message]
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-17 0:28 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Frode Tennebø
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Steffen Huber
2000-11-03 5:11 ` CMM in outside software (was Re: Ada and QNX) Robert I. Eachus
2000-11-03 5:34 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Ada and QNX Robert Dewar
2000-10-17 5:38 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-18 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-10-19 0:00 ` ADA vs. SmallEiffel Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16 0:00 ` Ada and QNX David Starner
2000-10-17 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-17 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-10-17 0:00 ` Buyer's Remorse? (was Re: Ada and QNX) mjsilva
2000-10-15 0:00 ` Ada and QNX James Boucher
2000-10-15 0:00 ` Steve Bellenot
2000-09-30 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-09-30 2:35 ` DuckE
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