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From: Tucker Taft <stt@averstar.com>
Subject: Re: Three simple questions
Date: 2000/10/12
Date: 2000-10-12T16:28:27+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39E5E6AB.193CE326@averstar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 39E4A0B5.6A6FEA0E@telepath.com

Ted Dennison wrote:
> 
> Tucker Taft wrote:
> 
> > Ted Dennison wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <39E30759.7A402CB6@bton.ac.uk>,
> > >   John English <je@bton.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > > I agree completely -- from a safety point of view, something like
> > > > this is surely essential for Ada 0X...
> > >
> > > I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.
> >
> > You'll be happy to know that pragmas have been proposed that
> > allow the programmer to prevent this kind of mistake.  See AI-218, at:
> >
> > http://www.ada-auth.org/cgi-bin-acats/cvsweb.cgi/AIs/AI-00218.DOC?rev=1.4
> 
> After looking over that AI, I think I'd rather see us wait for Ada0XX and fix
> it "right". They are clearly a bit of a hack, but I'm worried that they will
> become the permanent solution once they are officially blessed..

I would encourage you to give specific and detailed
comment on this proposal.  It is unlikely that
there will be any other solution considered unless
someone provides constructive feedback and a very
well thought out alternative proposal.

It is quite unlikely that there will be any massive ("full")
reengineering of Ada in the foreseeable future, 
but rather a series of small, "surgical" fixes (officially
known as "amendments").  New keywords are not out of the
question, but there has to be a *lot* of value provided,
and a lot of "taste" involved in the design.
Pragmas should also, of course, be designed with "taste,"
but admittedly it is hard to ever achieve a truly "tasty"
pragma ;-).

> ...
> --
> T.E.D.
> 
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-Tucker Taft   stt@averstar.com   http://www.averstar.com/~stt/
Technical Director, Commercial Division, AverStar (formerly Intermetrics)
(http://www.averstar.com/services/IT_consulting.html)  Burlington, MA  USA




  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-09  0:00 Three simple questions Frank Christiny
2000-10-09  0:00 ` John McCabe
2000-10-09  0:00   ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Case for case-sensitivity (Was: Three simple questions) Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-10-12  0:00           ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-10  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-10  0:00           ` John Magness
2000-10-10  0:00         ` tmoran
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-11  0:00         ` dmitry6243
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-12  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  0:00             ` nickerson
2000-10-15  1:48               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-10-11  4:39         ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-10  0:00     ` Three simple questions John English
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-10-10  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-11  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-11  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft [this message]
2000-10-12  0:00                   ` The AI process (was: Three simple questions) Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                     ` Marc A. Criley
2000-10-12  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-16  0:00                   ` Three simple questions Robert A Duff
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-11  0:11       ` wv12
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  3:25           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00             ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` David Starner
2000-10-18  0:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-19  0:00                     ` David Starner
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-10-23  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-28 11:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:56                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:57                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-10-16  3:10               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00             ` James Hassett
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-11  0:00         ` David Gillon
2000-10-11  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  2:12         ` DuckE
2000-10-10  0:47   ` Larry Elmore
2000-10-10  1:16     ` Ed Falis
2000-10-11  3:47       ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-13  0:00         ` Philippe Torres
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-10-10  0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  3:59   ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-10  0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Larry Hazel
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
     [not found]         ` <39EAEEEA.4F58C47C@cepsz.unizar.es>
2000-10-16  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-16  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:43                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-03  7:24                   ` E. E. Cummings (was Re: Three simple questions) Robert I. Eachus
2000-10-17  0:00               ` Three simple questions Keith Thompson
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  0:37       ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Richard Kenner
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-16  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-17  0:00           ` Ronald Cole
2000-10-17  0:00         ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  1:05   ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  3:28         ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Simon Wright
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
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