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From: "Marin D. Condic" <mcondic-nospam@acm.org>
Subject: Re: From extended Pascals to Ada 95 guide
Date: 2000/08/26
Date: 2000-08-26T13:23:33+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39A7C4B7.E6D655C1@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2IBp5.1573$OE.204952@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net


Larry Elmore wrote:
> 
> I haven't used MS Visual C++ much (just worked my way through the tutorial
> apps), and I haven't used Delphi since ver.2, but I thought Delphi was a
> much better environment to work in than MFC, and I liked Object Pascal a lot
> better than I've ever liked C++. That said, I just wish Delphi used Ada 95
> instead of Object Pascal. _That_ would've been the best of all possible
> worlds and I'd almost certainly still be using it today.
> 
I'm afraid I've never used Delphi, so I can't compare. I have been
building up experience with MSVC++ for some time now and, while I still
find the Win32api (and hence the MFC built on top of it) to be
"Organically Grown" rather than designed, I can find reasons to like it.
If you know the MFC, you get a lot of work done for you right there.
Using the MSVC++ development environment wizards to get the core of an
app built is also a lot of leverage. I like the organization of the
various packages into "Classes" where you can easily see the pieces.
(I'd like to see an editor for Ada that let you do the same - without
imposing this as mandatory, mind you!) The debugging facilities are very
impressive and very dynamic - allowing code to be modified on the fly,
etc. Naturally, because its C++, you really *need* the debugger to be
great! :-)

Maybe Delphi is better, but I wouldn't know. What features/capabilities
does it have that you think makes it superior?

I'll say this: If there was a fully integrated development kit similar
to MSVC++ for PC development using Ada, it would be one heck of a
competitor. Perhaps something like Claw merged with Adagide and spiffed
up to be more feature-rich. I know that the only reason we're using C++
for this development is because any attempt to use Ada would have meant
a huge time-to-market lag. All the downside costs of C++ become
irrelevant in comparison.

MDC
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-08-26  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-08-24  0:00 From extended Pascals to Ada 95 guide gdemont
2000-08-24  0:00 ` James Smith
2000-08-24  0:00   ` ODRe: " Richard Riehle
2000-08-29  0:00     ` James Smith
2000-08-30  0:00       ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-25  0:00   ` Robert Deininger
2000-08-25  0:00   ` Gautier
2000-08-25  0:00     ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-25  0:00       ` Gautier
2000-08-25  0:00         ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-25  0:00           ` Charles Hixson
2000-08-26  0:00             ` steve
2000-08-26  0:00               ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-27  0:00               ` David Botton
2000-08-28  6:41                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-08-28  0:00                   ` David Botton
2000-08-28  0:00             ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-28  0:00               ` Gautier
2000-08-28  0:00                 ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-28  0:00                   ` Marin D. Condic
2000-08-28  0:00                     ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-28  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-08-28  0:00                         ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-28  0:00                       ` Larry Elmore
2000-08-28  0:00                   ` Gautier
2000-08-28  0:00                     ` Charles Hixson
2000-08-28  0:00           ` Richard Riehle
2000-08-29  6:53             ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-25  0:00     ` Preben Randhol
2000-08-25  0:00       ` Pat Rogers
2000-08-25  0:00         ` Marin D. Condic
2000-08-25  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
2000-08-26  0:00             ` Marin D. Condic
2000-08-25  0:00           ` Larry Elmore
2000-08-26  0:00             ` Marin D. Condic [this message]
2000-08-27  0:00               ` David Botton
2000-08-27  0:00                 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-08-27  0:00                   ` tmoran
     [not found]                     ` <017801c0105d$06e88ac0$cf18b70a@db2000>
2000-08-27  0:00                       ` tmoran
2000-08-28  0:00                         ` Marin D. Condic
2000-08-28  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-08-28  0:00                     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-08-29  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-08-27  0:00                   ` David Botton
2000-08-28  0:00                     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-09-06  0:18                   ` John English
2000-08-28  0:00               ` Ray Blaak
2000-08-26  0:00             ` Dimmy Timchenko
2000-08-26  0:00           ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2000-08-26  0:00     ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2000-08-25  0:00   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-08-27  0:00   ` Ronald Cole
2000-08-27  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
2000-08-28  0:00       ` Ronald Cole
2000-08-27  0:00     ` David Starner
2000-08-27  0:00       ` Al Christians
2000-08-28  0:00         ` nabbasi
2000-08-29  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-08-29  0:00             ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-29  0:00               ` Gautier
2000-08-29  0:00                 ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-29  0:00               ` Jonas Maebe
2000-09-06  0:38               ` John English
2000-09-08 18:41                 ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-09-08 19:24                   ` Marco van de Voort
2000-09-09 17:50                     ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-09-10 16:40                       ` Marco van de Voort
2000-09-11  0:59                         ` Ken Garlington
2000-09-11 13:01                   ` John English
2000-09-11 14:45                     ` Ehud Lamm
2000-09-11 19:32                       ` Marco van de Voort
2000-09-27 23:03                       ` John English
2000-08-29  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-08-29  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-08-29  0:00             ` Charles Hixson
2000-08-30  0:00               ` Gary Scott
2000-08-30  0:00                 ` Charles Hixson
2000-08-30  0:00                   ` Gary Scott
2000-08-29  0:00           ` Ehud Lamm
2000-09-06  0:26           ` John English
2000-09-06 16:08             ` Charles Hixson
2000-08-28  0:00         ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-28  0:00           ` Al Christians
2000-08-28  0:00             ` Ray Blaak
2000-08-28  0:00           ` Gautier
2000-08-28  0:00             ` Marco van de Voort
2000-08-28  0:00       ` Marco van de Voort
     [not found] <01a101c0106f$745c3c70$cf18b70a@db2000>
2000-08-28  0:48 ` tmoran
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