From: Gautier <gautier.demontmollin@maths.unine.ch>
Subject: Re: How to Design an Application Programmers' Interface (API)
Date: 2000/08/11
Date: 2000-08-11T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <39943057.78926BBC@maths.unine.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3994158E.150D1FDA@netwood.net
> Gautier wrote:
> > You may take a look to the Ada95 binding to BLAS :
> > http://topo.math.u-psud.fr/~sands/BLAS/
E. Robert Tisdale:
> These thin interfaces to another language binding are called adapters.
> You have implemented a very nice adapter but I'm not sure why.
I fear you haven't noticed that it is not my work at all...
> Your adapter isn't really any more useful to Ada application programmers
> than the Fortran 77 language binding is to Fortran application programmers.
> Is it meant to help programmers implement linear algebra packages in Ada
> for Ada numerical application programmers to use?
It seems.
> I think that Ada numerical application programmers should be able to write
> C := alpha*product(A, B) + beta*C;
> and let the compiler resolve the expression to a DGEMM procedure call.
For scalar things or usage with small vectors or matrices as output of
functions I would do so. For bigger structures the procedure is better
- no temporary object in expressions. In my own (partial) bindings I have
both approaches.
> Calling DGEMM directly from an Ada application program
> abrogates all of the safety feature built into the Ada language.
It depends on the ratio of BLAS/LAPACK calls in the Ada code. For my
finite element program the "adapter" fits: there are a few calls that
separates well the 1960s programming models to my year 2000 sources...
It firewalls efficiently the weak-typing headaches and I can add
degrees of complexity with joy and decontraction...
Anyway you can wrap the adapter into some "Multiply" etc. procedures -
as well as "*" etc. functions.
> Take a look at the Ada95 Matrix Package
>
> http://dflwww.ece.drexel.edu/research/ada/
>
> Chris Papademetrious, Xiaoxun Zhu, Moshe Kam had the right idea
> but the wrong Abstract Data Type.
> An Ada95 Matrix Package should support strided views (slices)
> of existing arrays of numbers like every other high performance
> matrix library developed over the last 50 years.
> The actual details of allocating and deallocating memory
> for array storage may vary slightly from one language binding to the next.
Seems very elegant, but it might be not very efficient
- functional-only, and things like "RESULT := (others => (others => 0.0));"
I don't know of a compiler that just zeroes rapidly RESULT (also
a temp. variable BTW)...
Regards
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Gautier -- http://members.xoom.com/gdemont/gsoft.htm
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2000-08-10 0:00 How to Design an Application Programmers' Interface (API) E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-10 0:00 ` Jack Klein
2000-08-10 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
2000-08-10 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-10 0:00 ` vrml3d.com
2000-08-10 0:00 ` Tony T. Warnock
2000-08-10 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-08-10 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-10 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-08-10 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-10 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-08-11 0:00 ` David Botton
2000-08-11 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-08-11 0:00 ` Peter S. Shenkin
2000-08-10 0:00 ` Toon Moene
2000-08-10 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-11 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-11 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-08-11 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-11 0:00 ` Interfacing to Numerical Programming libraries (was: How to Design..) Larry Kilgallen
2000-08-12 0:00 ` Sam Hobbs
2000-08-12 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-12 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-08-12 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-11 0:00 ` Gautier [this message]
2000-08-11 0:00 ` How to Design an Application Programmers' Interface (API) E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-11 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-08-11 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-11 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-08-11 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-13 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-13 0:00 ` Gregory Pietsch
2000-08-13 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-13 0:00 ` Gregory Pietsch
2000-08-13 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-08-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-08-13 0:00 ` Brendan Sechter
2000-08-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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