Re: XP with Ada?

Re: XP with Ada?

[Ed Falis]

"Fredrik Th`o'rnblad" <fredrik.thornblad@celsius.se> wrote:
> Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada? Anyone
> willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
> 
> /Fredrik

I haven't done anything substantial, since I haven't been in a team
programming environment recently. But the first thing you need is a unit
test framework. I've adapted JUnit to use in command line mode for Ada,
but it only works with GNAT, as I needed to use pragma Debug to ensure
that the tests are compiled with assertions enabled. There's probably
some other way to do it that's more portable.

And of course, a copy of Martin Fowler's Refactoring is a very good
idea.

- Ed

Re: XP with Ada?

[Ed Falis]

<someone> wrote:
> Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada? Anyone
> willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
> 
> /Fredrik

dale <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au> wrote:
> Just curious, what is Extreme Programming?
> 
> Dale

A lightweight development process, oriented towards small team
development, and based on the assumption that the cost curve for changes
downstream is flatter than the traditional perception of the curve. A
number of practices that complement each other are used to keep software
flexible for change.

The current best reference is Kent Beck's "Extreme Programming
Explained". You can also get an intro at
http://www.extremeprogramming.org/

- Ed

Re: XP with Ada?

[Matthew Woodcraft]

Ed Falis <efalis@pop.ne.mediaone.net> writes:

> I haven't done anything substantial, since I haven't been in a team
> programming environment recently. But the first thing you need is a unit
> test framework. I've adapted JUnit to use in command line mode for Ada,
> but it only works with GNAT, as I needed to use pragma Debug to ensure
> that the tests are compiled with assertions enabled.

That sounds extremely useful. Is it publicly available?

-M-

Re: XP with Ada?

[Ed Falis]

Ed Falis <efalis@pop.ne.mediaone.net> writes:
> I haven't done anything substantial, since I haven't been in a team
> programming environment recently. But the first thing you need is a
> unit test framework. I've adapted JUnit to use in command line mode
> for Ada, but it only works with GNAT, as I needed to use pragma Debug
> to ensure that the tests are compiled with assertions enabled.

Matthew Woodcraft <mattheww@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> That sounds extremely useful. Is it publicly available?
> 
> -M-

Guess it's time to talk to the boss ;-)

- Ed

Re: XP with Ada?

[dale]

<someone> wrote:

> Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
> Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
> 
> /Fredrik


Just curious, what is Extreme Programming?

Dale

Re: XP with Ada?

[Gautier de Montmollin]

> Just curious, what is Extreme Programming?

---> http://www.extremeprogramming.org/

More infos here: http://www.dilbert.com/

HTH
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Gautier  --  http://members.xoom.com/gdemont/gsoft.htm

XP with Ada?

[Fredrik Th`o'rnblad]

Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?

/Fredrik

Re: XP with Ada?

[Lionel Draghi]

Fredrik Th`o'rnblad wrote:

> Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
> Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
>
> /Fredrik

When i was curious about XP, some month ago, i had the same question.
The only Ada reference i found was
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeAdaExperiment

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Lionel Draghi                                 http://www.Ada-France.org/

Re: XP with Ada?

[Richard Riehle]

Nice article about XP with Ada.

I met with Kent Beck last week and asked him if he knew of anyone using XP
with
Ada.  He didn't, but would be very interested in hearing of it.   Also met
with Martin
Fowler and asked him about it.  As with most mainstream programmers, he
knows
very little about Ada.   In fact, I still get the, "Is anyone still using
Ada?" question from
lots of well-known authorties on modern programming practice.   Sigh ......

If someone is using XP and Ada for a serious project, I suggest they compose
a good
paper/article for publication describing their experience.   It would get
some attention if
can be published in one of the popular journals.

Richard Riehle

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Lionel Draghi wrote:

> Fredrik Th`o'rnblad wrote:
>
> > Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
> > Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
> >
> > /Fredrik
>
> When i was curious about XP, some month ago, i had the same question.
> The only Ada reference i found was
> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeAdaExperiment
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Lionel Draghi                                 http://www.Ada-France.org/