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From: "Stanley R. Allen" <Stanley_R_Allen-NR@raytheon.com>
Subject: Re: Customer balks at Ada -- any hope?
Date: 2000/07/18
Date: 2000-07-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3974D0B3.1DEBD825@raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 39749DA3.CC4471DD@computermotion.com

Rennie Allen wrote:
> 
> "Stanley R. Allen" wrote:
> >
> > This is a positive factor in some project manager's minds concerning
> > the long-term maintenance issues.  
> 
> Dude !  Where do you find these managers (i.e. the ones with minds :).  They
> must have skipped the (usually required) lobotomy phase of management school.
> 
> I have never encountered a "manager" that was either bright enough to realize a
> long term benefit, or ethical enough to implement something that makes their
> budgeting look bad (high upfront costs), and someone else's look good (lower
> long-term costs - once the original manager has "moved up" - as management types
> like to do).  Many management types I have encountered, derive extreme
> satisfaction from pointing out the maintenance cost over-runs associated with
> projects that they initiated, but some recently
> lobotomized^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H recruited lower management type is now
> responsible for.
> 

Ok, Ok, I said *some* project managers.  Specifically, I'm thinking
of some in my plant who perhaps are more software-savvy than many.
I've had some bean-counters turned 'managers' around here who
don't know Java from Japan, but at least a couple (surprise,
surprise) used to be programmers.  The head of my department used
to teach Ada at the local university.  Another supervisor was a
member of the Posix/Ada mapping review group.  Another likes to
get his hands dirty with GNAT/Linux in his spare time.  

Heck, one day even *you* might become a manager, like some
other people that read this group regularly.

-- 
Stanley Allen
mailto:Stanley_R_Allen-NR@raytheon.com




  reply	other threads:[~2000-07-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-07-17  0:00 Customer balks at Ada -- any hope? mjsilva
2000-07-17  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-07-18  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18  0:00       ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18  0:00           ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-19  0:00             ` David Starner
2000-07-18  0:00         ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19  0:00           ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-19  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-20  0:00               ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-07-21  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-17  0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-07-18  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-18  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-18  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-07-18  0:00     ` Rennie Allen
2000-07-18  0:00       ` Stanley R. Allen [this message]
2000-07-20  0:00         ` Joseph C Williams
2000-07-21  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-18  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-18  0:00     ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00       ` nabbasi
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Rennie Allen
2000-07-19  0:00           ` nabbasi
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Pascal Obry
2000-07-19  0:00           ` Florian Weimer
2000-07-28  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-28  0:00               ` Philip Anderson
2000-07-28  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-31  0:00               ` Harry Erwin
2000-07-31  0:00                 ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-18  0:00       ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00 ` wv12
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-26  0:00     ` Dale Pontius
2000-07-26  0:00       ` Scott Ingram
2000-07-26  0:00         ` Pat Rogers
2000-07-26  0:00         ` Florian Weimer
2000-07-27  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-19  0:00     ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-19  0:00       ` fdebruin
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19  0:00           ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-19  0:00       ` Customer balks at Ada -- any hope?--Warning Significant Thread Drift Ahead Jeff Creem
2000-07-20  0:00         ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-28  0:00           ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-19  0:00   ` Customer balks at Ada -- any hope? Ken Garlington
2000-07-19  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-24  0:00 ` Richard Riehle
2000-07-25  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-25  0:00     ` gdemont
2000-07-25  0:00     ` Gary Scott
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