From: Rennie Allen <rallen@computermotion.com>
Subject: Re: Customer balks at Ada -- any hope?
Date: 2000/07/18
Date: 2000-07-18T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <39749DA3.CC4471DD@computermotion.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 39749211.1A6ADC0A@raytheon.com
"Stanley R. Allen" wrote:
>
> Tucker Taft wrote:
> >
> > Another important point is that good programmers can learn new languages
> > quickly, and Ada compilers provide excellent "training wheels" because
> > of their abundant compile-time error checking.
> >
>
> This is a positive factor in some project manager's minds concerning
> the long-term maintenance issues. The typical project has high
> skills (analysts and contract-rate programmers) at the front end
> and lower skills (college grads) at the back end. Because the
> language catches so many problems up front, the less skilled
> developers/maintainers are able to be more productive and
> introduce fewer problems during maintenance.
Dude ! Where do you find these managers (i.e. the ones with minds :). They
must have skipped the (usually required) lobotomy phase of management school.
I have never encountered a "manager" that was either bright enough to realize a
long term benefit, or ethical enough to implement something that makes their
budgeting look bad (high upfront costs), and someone else's look good (lower
long-term costs - once the original manager has "moved up" - as management types
like to do). Many management types I have encountered, derive extreme
satisfaction from pointing out the maintenance cost over-runs associated with
projects that they initiated, but some recently
lobotomized^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H recruited lower management type is now
responsible for.
Of course, I have worked for some great individuals, but the good ones, have
generally been reticent to refer to themselves as managers...
--
To succeed in this world it is not enough to be stupid; you must also be
well-mannered. - Voltaire
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2000-07-17 0:00 Customer balks at Ada -- any hope? mjsilva
2000-07-17 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-07-17 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-20 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-07-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18 0:00 ` wv12
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-26 0:00 ` Dale Pontius
2000-07-26 0:00 ` Scott Ingram
2000-07-26 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-07-27 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-26 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Customer balks at Ada -- any hope?--Warning Significant Thread Drift Ahead Jeff Creem
2000-07-20 0:00 ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-28 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Customer balks at Ada -- any hope? fdebruin
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-07-18 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18 0:00 ` nabbasi
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-07-28 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-28 0:00 ` Philip Anderson
2000-07-28 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Harry Erwin
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Rennie Allen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` nabbasi
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Rennie Allen [this message]
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-07-20 0:00 ` Joseph C Williams
2000-07-21 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-18 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-07-24 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
2000-07-25 0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-07-25 0:00 ` Gary Scott
2000-07-25 0:00 ` gdemont
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