* compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consultant]
@ 1994-10-20 7:29 tmoran
1994-10-20 14:22 ` Norman H. Cohen
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From: tmoran @ 1994-10-20 7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
I just observed a make, compile with full optimization, and link
of 2200 lines in 24 source files, in almost exactly one minute
on my 486 (Janus Ada 83 compiler). That translates to about 22
million lines in a solid week. But if the source files are
small, and the compiler is loaded once for each file, and there
is inadequate disk caching, things could go downhill in a hurry.
My limited experience is that C compilers generally load once,
with a bunch of source files on the command line, while Ada
compilers more often compile one file per compiler invocation.
Is that generally true?
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* Re: compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consultant]
1994-10-20 7:29 compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consultant] tmoran
@ 1994-10-20 14:22 ` Norman H. Cohen
1994-10-20 18:15 ` Kent Mitchell
1994-10-20 19:05 ` compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consult Richard L. Conn
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From: Norman H. Cohen @ 1994-10-20 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <385686$501@news.delphi.com>, tmoran@bix.com writes:
|> I just observed a make, compile with full optimization, and link
|> of 2200 lines in 24 source files, in almost exactly one minute
|> on my 486 (Janus Ada 83 compiler). That translates to about 22
|> million lines in a solid week. But if the source files are
|> small, and the compiler is loaded once for each file, and there
|> is inadequate disk caching, things could go downhill in a hurry.
A 2200-line program is not likely to have many with clauses per
compilation unit. The performance of some compilers is sensitive to the
number of with clauses, because of the time taken to read in the
associated information from the program library (so much so that the GNAT
team decided it would be faster to reparse the source of the with'ed
units). Thus it cannot be assumed that this test scales up to a large
program with complex dependencies among compilation units.
|> My limited experience is that C compilers generally load once,
|> with a bunch of source files on the command line, while Ada
|> compilers more often compile one file per compiler invocation.
|> Is that generally true?
It depends on the compiler. The AIX Ada 6000 compiler, for example,
mimics the traditional "cc" command-line interface, allowing multiple
source files, .o files, and .a (archive) files to be specified on the
command line. All the source files are compiled and the resulting object
files are linked with the other .o files named on the command line, using
archived object files as needed. (This compiler, originally developed by
Oliver Cole Systems, is now maintained as an OCS product, under a new
name that slips my mind at the moment.)
--
Norman H. Cohen ncohen@watson.ibm.com
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* Re: compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consultant]
1994-10-20 7:29 compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consultant] tmoran
1994-10-20 14:22 ` Norman H. Cohen
@ 1994-10-20 18:15 ` Kent Mitchell
1994-10-20 19:05 ` compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consult Richard L. Conn
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From: Kent Mitchell @ 1994-10-20 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
tmoran@bix.com wrote:
: My limited experience is that C compilers generally load once,
: with a bunch of source files on the command line, while Ada
: compilers more often compile one file per compiler invocation.
: Is that generally true?
No I would not say this is generally true but there are some compilers that
could have this restriction. I that were a restriction, then the compile
time could go up quite dramtically.
--
Kent Mitchell | One possible reason that things aren't
Technical Consultant | going according to plan is .....
Rational Software Corporation | that there never *was* a plan!
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* Re: compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consult
1994-10-20 7:29 compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consultant] tmoran
1994-10-20 14:22 ` Norman H. Cohen
1994-10-20 18:15 ` Kent Mitchell
@ 1994-10-20 19:05 ` Richard L. Conn
1994-10-25 18:08 ` Eric C. Newton
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From: Richard L. Conn @ 1994-10-20 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
One thing to keep in mind about your metrics is the KIND of Ada
code being compiled. If there is heavy reliance on subunits,
for example, a lot of small files containing many subunits will
probably take longer than a lot of small files with no subunits.
Rick
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* Re: compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consult
1994-10-20 19:05 ` compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consult Richard L. Conn
@ 1994-10-25 18:08 ` Eric C. Newton
1994-10-25 22:23 ` Robert Dewar
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From: Eric C. Newton @ 1994-10-25 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
I regularly work with a one-million line C++ program that takes about
six hours to compile on a '486/33 with SCO Unix and the GNU C++ compiler.
LOC are counted with 'wc'.
Few, if any templates are used.
Optimizations are used.
Generated code is not counted.
Of course, this statistic, like many of the others given here are quite
silly.
-Eric
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* Re: compilation time [was Re: Magnavox consult
1994-10-25 18:08 ` Eric C. Newton
@ 1994-10-25 22:23 ` Robert Dewar
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From: Robert Dewar @ 1994-10-25 22:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
one million lines of C++ compiling in 6 hours on a 486.
That sounds reasonable, GNAT will generally compile about the same speed
as g++. On my thinkpad, a 75MHz 486 with no 2nd-level cache, it takes
about 50 minutes to compile the GNAT sources, which are about 150,000
lines of Ada.
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