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From: Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: ada writing guide
Date: 2000/04/20
Date: 2000-04-20T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38FF4D28.8F946BDA@telepath.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 38FF1D6B.4120AF7B@Raytheon.com

"Samuel T. Harris" wrote:

> Any version control system which allows Fred to simply check-out
> the file without warning him that his content is no longer
> based on the latest version is seriously broken! This is a
> basic access control feature. If you want this protection,
> then support of this feature becames a primary tool selection
> requirement!

(Sigh). You are talking about a different revision control setup than I was
in the quoted post (one in which the latest source is always visible, unless
a local copy is checked out for editing). I addressed the (CVS) style you are
referring to in another post. Suffice to say, the problem still exists in the
setup you are talking about too (unless you have some kind of revision
control system that notices that emacs has an obsolete copy loaded in its
internal buffer).

It seems like a lot of heat is getting generated on this issue due to
misunderstandings about how different revision control systems work. The
tragic part of this is that it doesn't matter at all what style of RCS you
are using. We are *not* talking about external files here, but a buffer
internal to emacs that never again gets checked against the file it was
loaded from. No gyration done with external files can *possibly* solve this
problem.

Clearly the right solution to this problem (emacs checking the file for
changes before writing it back out), has already been arrived at and
implemented. So I don't see much point in continuing to sit here and argue
over whether the problem exists. If the maintainer of the emacs ada mode saw
that it exsits, and thought it was enough of a problem that it warranted
fixing by the next revision, that's good enough for me.

If anyone still feels compelled to continue this discussion, please at least
do me the service of writing down your own scenario that shows how this won't
be a problem. I feel like I'm swinging at the wind here.

--
T.E.D.

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-04-20  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-04-12  0:00 ada writing guide Riyaz Mansoor
2000-04-12  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-12  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00     ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-13  0:00     ` Jeffrey D. Cherry
2000-04-13  0:00       ` Paul Graham
2000-04-13  0:00       ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-13  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-13  0:00         ` Jeffrey D. Cherry
2000-04-13  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-13  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-14  0:00             ` Pascal Obry
2000-04-14  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-14  0:00                 ` Pascal Obry
2000-04-17  0:00                   ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-17  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-17  0:00                       ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-17  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-18  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-18  0:00                           ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-18  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-18  0:00                               ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-18  0:00                                 ` Brian Courtney
2000-04-19  0:00                                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-19  0:00                                   ` Brian Courtney
2000-04-19  0:00                                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-19  0:00                                   ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-24  0:00                                     ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-19  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-20  0:00                                     ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-20  0:00                                       ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-20  0:00                                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-24  0:00                                   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-24  0:00                                     ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-25  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-27  0:00                                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-20  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-20  0:00                           ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2000-04-21  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-21  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                               ` <38FFd43e.70f1bb7d@telepath.com>
2000-04-21  0:00                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-21  0:00                               ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-24  0:00                             ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-24  0:00                               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-27  0:00                                 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-20  0:00                         ` Emmanuel Briot
2000-04-20  0:00                           ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-16  0:00           ` Simon Wright
2000-04-16  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00         ` Ray Blaak
2000-04-15  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-16  0:00           ` Simon Wright
2000-04-13  0:00   ` Riyaz Mansoor
2000-04-13  0:00     ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-04-13  0:00     ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-12  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00   ` Riyaz Mansoor
2000-04-13  0:00     ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-04-15  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-14  0:00 ` Riyaz Mansoor
2000-04-14  0:00   ` tmoran
2000-04-14  0:00     ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-04-15  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00       ` tmoran
2000-04-17  0:00         ` Marc A. Criley
2000-04-17  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-18  0:00         ` Geoff Bull
2000-04-14  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
2000-04-14  0:00     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-14  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-15  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-15  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
2000-04-27  0:00         ` gbull
2000-04-16  0:00       ` Ehud Lamm
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