From: Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Disallowing Pre-Defined Operations
Date: 2000/03/16
Date: 2000-03-16T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38D15537.B06CA311@earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 38D013EF.1F431E34@cadence.com
Re: Units:
mks? cgs? or English System? (And is a gallon an Imperial Gallon or a US
gallon?) Are angles measures in degrees, radians, or mils? (etc.)
This feels like a very important issue to me, but if there is a generally
applicable solution, I still don't know it. The closest I've come it to
defining, say, Meters to be a particular data type descended from (Numeric...
choose the appropriate flavor) that implements a toString feature.
Of course then one doesn't have the operators defined until one does something
like
function "/"(x : Meters; y : Numeric) return Meters;
et-multitudinous-cetera.
Paul Graham wrote:
> Tucker Taft wrote:
> >
> > "Charles H. Sampson" wrote:
> > > ...
> > > >You'll have to post the exact code if we're to understand what's going
> > > >on there (all of the ops declared, and the supposedly ambiguous
> > > >statement). And the error message.
> > >
> > > O. K., here's an example. It's not meant to meaningful, just to
> > > show the problem, although I hope that the name for the integer variable
> > > suggests how it could be used meaningfully. This example has been
> > The techniques using discriminants are unsatisfactory in my view,
> > and too "heavy." VHDL has the notion of "units" built into the language,
> > and its approach should probably be evaluated.
>
> In VHDL units are mainly used for type TIME. Things get complicated
> when you
> try to map the physical world onto unit data types. For instance:
>
> type time is ...
> type distance is ...
> type velocity is ...
> type acceleration is ...
> type mass is ...
>
> function "/"(x : distance; y : time) return velocity;
> function "/"(x : velocity; y : time) return acceleration;
> function "*"(x : mass; y : acceleration) return force;
> function "*"(x : force; y : distance) return work;
> ...
>
> Anyway, you can see that the set of units and possible operations
> between units
> grows very quickly. I wonder how big a complete physical types package
> would
> be (complete enough to represent all the equations in a physics or
> electonics
> textbook for instance)?
>
> Paul
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2000-03-10 0:00 Disallowing Pre-Defined Operations Charles H. Sampson
2000-03-09 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-03-09 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-03-12 0:00 ` Steven Hovater
2000-03-10 0:00 ` mark_biggar
2000-03-10 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-03-11 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-03-11 0:00 ` James S. Rogers
2000-03-13 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-13 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-13 0:00 ` dmitry6243
2000-03-15 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
2000-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-21 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
2000-03-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-12 0:00 ` claveman
2000-03-12 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-13 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-15 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
2000-03-15 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-03-15 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-03-16 0:00 ` Charles Hixson [this message]
2000-03-17 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-03-17 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-20 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-16 0:00 ` Bryce Bardin
2000-03-16 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-16 0:00 ` mark_biggar
2000-03-16 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-03-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-13 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-14 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
2000-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-17 0:00 ` William A Whitaker
2000-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-22 0:00 ` William A Whitaker
2000-03-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-06 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-04-05 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-06 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-07 0:00 ` dale
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-07 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-08 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-04-08 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-04-08 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-04-10 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Niklas Holsti
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-09 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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