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From: Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects'
Date: 2000/03/06
Date: 2000-03-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38C3D03D.FD5D39D1@earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 38C09E9F.2C752521@earthlink.net

"Robert I. Eachus" wrote:

> -- snip

> So there are really two styles of programming.  One, which may or may
> not be fine for computer games, etc., relies on debugging quality in.
> The other relies on building it in in the first place.  Most Ada
> programmers are used to the second style, which is why we seldom (if
> ever!) use a debugger.

Somehow I tend to feel that both extremes are wrong here.  Yes, one should
write the best code that one can.  Yes, one should include all reasonable
error checks. (A few kind words for Design By Contract go here.) But one
still needs debugging tools.  The less you use them, the friendlier they
need to be.  Once upon a time I used to read core dumps, but I haven't
looked at one in the last 10 years.  I haven't written assembler in the last
15+.  So to help me much debugger needs to be symbolic, and tied in a useful
way to the source level of the code that it is being applied to.






  reply	other threads:[~2000-03-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-02-15  0:00 Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Gautier
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Marin D. Condic
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]     ` <38A9C619.790950B0@quadruscorp.com>
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-17  0:00     ` Gautier
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00         ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Ed Falis
2000-02-15  0:00             ` Hyman Rosen
     [not found]             ` <RUkq4.1243$dw3.69085@news.wenet.net>
2000-02-15  0:00               ` Dang! (was Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Mike Silva
2000-02-17  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]           ` <150220001931201946%emery@grebyn.com>
2000-02-17  0:00             ` Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Dale Pontius
     [not found]               ` <1e66z6d.1a9fzdvtbw6t2N%herwin@gmu.edu>
2000-02-19  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
2000-02-19  0:00               ` Joe Wisniewski
2000-02-21  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-04  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-03-06  0:00                     ` Charles Hixson [this message]
2000-03-06  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-07  0:00                       ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-03-08  0:00                           ` Marin D. Condic
2000-02-17  0:00       ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Gautier
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-07  0:00     ` Mike Dimmick
2000-03-07  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-03-08  0:00       ` Dale Pontius
2000-03-08  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-03-08  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-08  0:00             ` Laurent Guerby
2000-03-10  0:00             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
     [not found] ` <38A9C4ED.C75316F9@raytheon.com>
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-16  0:00 ` Windows TP (Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Vladimir Olensky
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