From: Jon S Anthony <jsa@synquiry.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for Ada Technique Name and References
Date: 2000/02/29
Date: 2000-02-29T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38BC3496.26FE@synquiry.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.BSF.4.21.0002290914250.6230-100000@shell5.ba.best.com
Brian Rogoff wrote:
>
> Well, the topic has really changed, but if you are going to rank languages
> based on their support for the functional programming paradigm, I'd give
> Ada a fairly significant edge over C and C++ since
Agreed.
> (1) Ada is lexically scoped
??? Surely you don't mean to imply that C/C++ are dynamically scoped?
> (2) Ada allows the use of nested subprograms as subprogram parameters to
> generic instantiations, allowing the crude simulation of downward
> funargs.
Agreed, but this is very crude indeed.
> In my experience, this captures some small amount of FP style directly
> which is awful in C and unpleasant in C++ (where you can overload "()"
> and explicitly pass local state rather than directly referencing variables
> from an enclosing scope).
I'm still not clear on why you think this means that C/C++ are not
lexically
scoped (or perhaps "less lexically scoped" than Ada). Certainly passing
local state around does not impact this. I agree that there are cases
where
you _have_ to do this when a lexically scoped access is what you really
want.
>Re: On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Charles Hixson wrote:
>> Even the various dialects of Lisp range from the purely functional (i.e.,
>> where all constructs can be phrased as a functional call with sugar around
>> it) to Common Lisp. And none of these are what I now think of as the
>> functional languages: ML, OCaML, etc.
>
> I don't want to start a FP language war in c.l.ada, but why do you
> consider "Pure Lisp", ML and OCaml functional, Common Lisp not? I use
> references, arrays, and exceptions in my OCaml code...
Good question; direct support for iteration? Then again, he seems to
exclude
Scheme as well. Shrug.
/Jon
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2000-02-18 0:00 ` Looking for Ada Technique Name and References Tucker Taft
2000-02-21 0:00 ` Diana Webster
2000-02-22 0:00 ` John Halleck
2000-02-22 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-02-22 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-02-23 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-02-22 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-02-22 0:00 ` John Halleck
2000-02-23 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
2000-02-22 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
2000-02-28 0:00 ` Charles D. Hixson
2000-02-28 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
2000-03-01 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-03-01 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
2000-03-01 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-04 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-03-01 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-02-22 0:00 ` Gautier
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