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From: "Samuel T. Harris" <samuel_t_harris@Raytheon.com>
Subject: Re: scripting/extension language for Ada (we have an opportunity here)
Date: 2000/02/17
Date: 2000-02-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38ABF54E.6EBB34B3@Raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccputwc1ft.fsf@world.std.com

Robert A Duff wrote:
> 
> "Samuel T. Harris" <samuel_t_harris@Raytheon.com> writes:
> 
> >... So I don't need syntax non-terminals
> > such as function_call_or_array_index_or_qualified_aggregate
> > with all the complexity involved. The semantics
> > still have to verify the appropriate nature of
> > the element.
> >
> > Given this, I believe you would agree that the substitution
> > of () for [] and {} would now be trivial.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> But the simplification of the grammar is fairly minor, when compared
> with the complexity of overload resolution.

I feel the simplification of the grammar is much more than minor.
I get much closer to being able to apply the Ada syntax directly
to aflex/ayacc with these special substitutions. I suppose we
place a different priority on the ease of syntax translation.

However, I do agree with you on the semantics.
They are just as hard with or without special delimiters.

> 
> There may be good and bad things about "[", but I wouldn't say "["
> greatly simplifies the compiler/interpreter, as you've defined it.
> 
> By the way, aggregates (qualified or not) can be syntactically
> distinguished from function calls and whatnot.  The aggregate issue is
> the potential confusion between a parenthesized expression and a
> one-element positional aggregate.  (I consider it a design flaw in Ada
> that there are no one-element and zero-element positional aggregates.
> But with you're "trivial substitution" model, you can't solve that
> problem.)

Yes, that is a stickler with me as well.
All in all, when my short list of Ada peeves contains
these kinds of things, I thinks that speaks very highly
of the quality of the language.

> 
> - Bob

-- 
Samuel T. Harris, Principal Engineer
Raytheon, Aerospace Engineering Services
"If you can make it, We can fake it!"




  reply	other threads:[~2000-02-17  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-27  0:00 tagged types extensions - language design question Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-27  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-27  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-01-28  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-28  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-28  0:00       ` Charles Hixson
2000-01-28  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
2000-02-01  0:00           ` Charles Hixson
2000-02-01  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-29  0:00       ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-29  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-31  0:00           ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-31  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-31  0:00               ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-29  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-27  0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-01-28  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-28  0:00     ` Andy
2000-01-28  0:00       ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-29  0:00         ` Andy
2000-01-31  0:00           ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-27  0:00 ` Fraser
2000-01-28  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-01-31  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-02-01  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
2000-02-01  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-03  0:00         ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) root
2000-02-03  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-04  0:00             ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-04  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Ehud Lamm
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` blaak
2000-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-09  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-09  0:00                     ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-10  0:00                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-10  0:00                   ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` David Starner
2000-02-12  0:00                       ` blaak
2000-02-15  0:00                         ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-12  0:00                       ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` scripting/extension language for Ada (we have an opportunity here) Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-11  0:00                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` blaak
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-13  0:00                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-02-16  0:00                             ` scripting/extension ... [off topic] Nick Roberts
2000-02-16  0:00                               ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` scripting/extension language for Ada (we have an opportunity here) Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-02-12  0:00                           ` root
2000-02-12  0:00                           ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-14  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-15  0:00                               ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-16  0:00                                 ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-16  0:00                                   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-16  0:00                                     ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-17  0:00                                       ` Samuel T. Harris [this message]
2000-02-14  0:00                     ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) Robert A Duff
2000-02-04  0:00               ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-02-04  0:00                 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-05  0:00                   ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-05  0:00                     ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-06  0:00                       ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-06  0:00                       ` Bryce Bardin
2000-02-08  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-05  0:00             ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged typesextensions) Lionel Draghi
2000-02-05  0:00           ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) Ehud Lamm
2000-02-06  0:00             ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-06  0:00               ` scripting/extension language for Ada Terry Westley
2000-02-06  0:00               ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) Ehud Lamm
2000-02-09  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-31  0:00 ` tagged types extensions - language design question Mark Lundquist
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Simon Wright
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Ehud Lamm
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