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From: "Marin D. Condic" <mcondic-nospam@quadruscorp.com>
Subject: Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects'
Date: 2000/02/15
Date: 2000-02-15T21:23:42+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38A9C397.D834719E@quadruscorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87k8k69qm9.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org

Florian Weimer wrote:
> 
> 63,000 `potential known defects' (whatever this means) isn't too bad for
> a software product consisting of over 30 million lines of code, is it?

From my experience, this number is probably derived from some internal
change request tracking system. That means that there are likely 63k
submittals of one form or another wherein there may be a large number of
duplications.

Of course not all bugs are equal in the eyes of their creator. The
"defects" could range from "Correct the spelling of XYZ in a comment in
module ABC" all the way up to "If I click on this icon the disk drive is
erased and the whole system locks up."

Still in all, I think a reasonable presumption about a large system
written in a weakly typed language would be that some significant
portion of the known defects would never occur if it had been programmed
in a more rigorous language such as Ada. In the past, I have collected
enough data on similar project comparisons to be able to convince myself
and others that Ada resulted in a decrease of defects by a factor of
four over similar systems with weak checking.

MDC
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-02-15  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-02-15  0:00 Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Gautier
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00         ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Ed Falis
2000-02-15  0:00             ` Hyman Rosen
     [not found]             ` <RUkq4.1243$dw3.69085@news.wenet.net>
2000-02-15  0:00               ` Dang! (was Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Mike Silva
2000-02-17  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Brian Rogoff
     [not found]           ` <150220001931201946%emery@grebyn.com>
2000-02-17  0:00             ` Dale Pontius
2000-02-19  0:00               ` Joe Wisniewski
2000-02-21  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-04  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-03-06  0:00                     ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-06  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-07  0:00                       ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-03-08  0:00                           ` Marin D. Condic
     [not found]               ` <1e66z6d.1a9fzdvtbw6t2N%herwin@gmu.edu>
2000-02-19  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
2000-02-17  0:00       ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Gautier
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-07  0:00     ` Mike Dimmick
2000-03-07  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-03-08  0:00       ` Dale Pontius
2000-03-08  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-03-08  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-08  0:00             ` Laurent Guerby
2000-03-10  0:00             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Marin D. Condic [this message]
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]     ` <38A9C619.790950B0@quadruscorp.com>
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-17  0:00     ` Gautier
2000-02-16  0:00 ` Windows TP (Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Vladimir Olensky
     [not found] ` <38A9C4ED.C75316F9@raytheon.com>
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Samuel T. Harris
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