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From: "Samuel T. Harris" <samuel_t_harris@Raytheon.com>
Subject: Re: scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions)
Date: 2000/02/10
Date: 2000-02-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38A2F3BA.11A78D92@Raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87sc3j$nva$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Ted Dennison wrote:
> 
> In article <wcc3dr2mq9z.fsf@world.std.com>,
>   Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com> wrote:
> > blaak@infomatch.com writes:
> >
> > For example, I consider the make files and whatnot that are used to
> > build a program and run its regression tests, to be scripts.  But
> these
> > are long-lived pieces of software, and therefore need to be
> > maintainable.  So "easy to write" is mostly irrelevant.
> > "easy to understand, and easy to change" are key.
> 
> I realized while taking an AI class a while back that make is basicly a
> special-purpose AI inference engine. In effect, makefiles constitue the
> rules and knowledge base in an expert system that knows how to build a
> program.

Good point.

> 
> AI folks will readily admit productivity as measured in SLOC/hour is
> *way* lower for expert system development than it is in normal
> imperitive languages.

Having done expert systems in the past, I attribute
the productivity hit not to the domain of inference
rules, but to the sometimes aggrevating process
of "knowledge engineering" which involves getting
the domain expert(s) to tell you why they know
something when they usually just know!

> 
> I'm not sure what can be done about this, though. If you were to try to
> write something in Ada that was even half as flexible, you'd basicly end
> up writing your own custom expert system. In that case you'd be subject
> to the same productivity hit, with the inference engine development time
> tacked onto the front to boot.
> 

-- 
Samuel T. Harris, Principal Engineer
Raytheon, Aerospace Engineering Services
"If you can make it, We can fake it!"




  reply	other threads:[~2000-02-10  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-27  0:00 tagged types extensions - language design question Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-27  0:00 ` Fraser
2000-01-27  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-27  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-01-28  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-28  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-28  0:00       ` Charles Hixson
2000-01-28  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
2000-02-01  0:00           ` Charles Hixson
2000-02-01  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-29  0:00       ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-29  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-31  0:00           ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-31  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-31  0:00               ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-29  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
2000-01-27  0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-01-28  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-28  0:00     ` Andy
2000-01-28  0:00       ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-29  0:00         ` Andy
2000-01-31  0:00           ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-01-28  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-01-31  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-02-01  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
2000-02-01  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-03  0:00         ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) root
2000-02-03  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-04  0:00             ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-04  0:00               ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-02-04  0:00                 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-05  0:00                   ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-05  0:00                     ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-06  0:00                       ` Bryce Bardin
2000-02-08  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-06  0:00                       ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-04  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` blaak
2000-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-09  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-09  0:00                     ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-10  0:00                       ` Samuel T. Harris [this message]
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Ehud Lamm
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-10  0:00                   ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` scripting/extension language for Ada (we have an opportunity here) Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-11  0:00                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` blaak
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-13  0:00                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-02-16  0:00                             ` scripting/extension ... [off topic] Nick Roberts
2000-02-16  0:00                               ` Ray Blaak
2000-02-12  0:00                         ` scripting/extension language for Ada (we have an opportunity here) Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-02-12  0:00                           ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-14  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-15  0:00                               ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-16  0:00                                 ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-16  0:00                                   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-16  0:00                                     ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-17  0:00                                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-12  0:00                           ` root
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) David Starner
2000-02-12  0:00                       ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-12  0:00                       ` blaak
2000-02-15  0:00                         ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-14  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-05  0:00             ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged typesextensions) Lionel Draghi
2000-02-05  0:00           ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) Ehud Lamm
2000-02-06  0:00             ` Lionel Draghi
2000-02-06  0:00               ` scripting/extension language for Ada Terry Westley
2000-02-06  0:00               ` scripting/extension language for Ada (was : Re: tagged types extensions) Ehud Lamm
2000-02-09  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-31  0:00 ` tagged types extensions - language design question Mark Lundquist
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Ehud Lamm
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Simon Wright
2000-02-01  0:00   ` Vladimir Olensky
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