From: Geoff Bull <gbull@acenet.com.au>
Subject: Re: The revolution will not be standardized
Date: 1999/12/15
Date: 1999-12-15T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <385779CB.12991F19@acenet.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 835mbb$5jd$1@nnrp1.deja.com
Ted Dennison wrote:
>
> In article <38561D9A.70B61403@acenet.com.au>,
> > There is a language specification for the core language.
>
> But if Sun decides tomorrow that Java now looks just like Python, who's
> to stop them?
A few million unhappy customers.
> If someone makes a completely non-conformant JVM, and pays Sun a ton of
> money, what's to stop Sun from declaring it a valid JVM?
That would seem like a pretty dumb thing to do in the long term,
particularly considering the Sun v Microsoft cases.
> If someone makes a perfectly conformant Java but Sun doesn't like them
> for some other reason, what's to stop Sun from refusing to declare it a
> valid Java implementation?
I'm not a lawyer, but I can think of a few legal angles on this one.
To start with, in Australia, that would be a breach of our
Trade Practices Act. And I am under the impression that US laws are
tougher than ours in this regard.
> > The libraries are extensively documented, so that can be considered
> > a standard. And of course, the JVM has a standard.
>
> Being documented does not make something a standard. By that logic,
> every commercial API in the world would be a "standard".
True - but if something has a few million users it is a defacto
standard.
>
> "When is a standard *not* a standard?".
When nobody uses it.
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-12-09 0:00 The revolution will not be standardized Ted Dennison
1999-12-10 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-12-10 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-12 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-13 0:00 ` reason67
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Greg Martin
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Greg Martin
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-22 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-01-05 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-12-23 0:00 ` gnat 3.12 Michael Ben-Gershon
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-15 0:00 ` The revolution will not be standardized Ted Dennison
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Geoff Bull [this message]
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-12-14 0:00 ` reason67
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
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