From: Chris Powell <chris.powell@rrds.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Help me to chose between ADA 95 and C++
Date: 1999/12/14
Date: 1999-12-14T13:58:05+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38564CD6.F13F69FB@rdel.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.BSF.4.21.9912131540530.6417-100000@shell5.ba.best.com
Brian Rogoff wrote:
> Of course, none of this is really OO, but I think OO is way overrated anyways.
> Since you mention STL in the same paragraph as OO, I suppose I should ask
> you what you mean by OO. Most people wouldn't consider the STL OO,
> including its authors.
Its true that the STL is not implemented using OO constructs, but it is
conceptually OO, with the concept of a container base class defining
methods for manipulating elements, which are overriden to work
differently for specific container types and the abstraction of
iterators which can work on any type of container... but this wasn't
really why I mentioned the STL:
If I were to choose Ada 95 for OO programming I would have a safer
program, at the expense of more obscure OO syntax. So, in order to use
the syntax that I prefer, ie. C++, I need to find ways to make C++
programs safer and one way is to use the STL.
Interestingly, many of the OO related pitfalls are evident in Ada 95 and
C++, because the way the two languages work is not actually that
different, for example attempting to override a method, but mis-typing
the name in the derived class making it a new method rather than an
overriden one.
> I suppose I could be convinced that C++ is more convenient for a "pure OO"
> style of programming than Ada. Let's see those examples...
I have posted one example. I guess it comes down to how important you
think programming elegance is, compared to intrinsic safety. I feel I am
experienced enough in C++ to be rarely caught out, but I admit there are
some nasty gotchas!
Chris.
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1999-11-26 0:00 Help me to chose between ADA 95 and C++ Robert
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Harald Schmidt
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
1999-11-26 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
1999-12-04 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
[not found] ` <01bf3e32$0b9dc880$022a6282@dieppe>
1999-12-10 0:00 ` Chris Powell
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Chris Powell
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Chris Powell
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-12 0:00 ` Richard Pinkall-Pollei
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-20 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Rakesh Malhotra
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Chris Powell
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-13 0:00 ` DuckE
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-12-13 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Chris Powell [this message]
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Richard Pinkall-Pollei
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Richard Pinkall-Pollei
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-21 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-12-22 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Chris Powell
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Chris Powell
1999-12-27 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-12-23 0:00 ` Chris Powell
1999-11-27 0:00 ` Lionel Draghi
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1999-12-14 0:00 Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-15 0:00 Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-12-17 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-18 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-12-20 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-22 0:00 Help me to chose between ADA 95 and C++ ( Ehud Lamm
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