From: klimas@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Subject: Re: ada-c++ productivity
Date: 19 Mar 91 16:14:08 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3847.27e5f280@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1991Mar17.142756.25676@ecst.csuchico.edu
In article <1991Mar17.142756.25676@ecst.csuchico.edu>, rreid@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ralph Reid III) writes:
> In article <1991Mar16.205228.4268@grebyn.com> ted@grebyn.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes:
>> . . .
>>from the Feb. 11 issue of Federal Computer Week:
>>
>> "The GSA Board of Contract appeals issued a ruling last month that
>> could effect how the military evaluates the cost effectiveness of Ada
>> software.
>>
>> "The board upheld a decision by the Air Force to award a contract to
>> a high-priced bidder based on a measure of productivity that equals
>> three lines of Ada code per programmer per day.
>>
>> "A lower priced bidder, and others in the Ada community, said this
>> standard is much too low. The protester in the case, DynaLantic
>> Corp, offered an average of ten lines of code per day per
>> programmer.
>>
>> "Three lines of code per day is absurd [as if ten wasn't], said
>> Ralph Crafts, editor of a newsletter on Ada, and an expert
>> witness for the protester.....
>> . . .
>
>
> I don't know where these companies are digging up these kind of
> unproductive machine operators (I hesitate to call them real
> programmers), but they would never get through the computer science
> program here at Chico State. It kind of makes me wonder what schools
> they came from, if they even have degrees. The kind of productivity
> discussed in this article sounds like the level I might expect from
> beginning programming students at a junior college. I would like to
> know what in this world could reduce a serious programmer's
> productivity to these levels.
Ten lines of code per man day is quite believable in a corporate
environment! $50-$75/line of code is typical even in non military
applications (e.g. Mentor Graphics C++ based RELEASE 8.0 supposedly
has about a million lines of code and cost the company $75million.
I believe the difference in code quality, testing, documentation
and the usual intergalactic corporate overhead are the problems.
On the other hand I'm not so sure I'd want shareware in a cruise
missle either!
>
> --
> Ralph. SAAC member.
> ARS: N6BNO
> Compuserve: 72250.3521@compuserve.com
> email: rreid@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1991-03-07 16:31 ada-c++ productivity Craig C Johnson
1991-03-08 20:58 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-10 15:12 ` Joachim Wiese
1991-03-13 23:12 ` Joe Buck
1991-03-15 1:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1991-03-15 22:46 ` Larry M. Jordan
1991-03-16 0:06 ` Craig Chambers
1991-03-16 20:52 ` Ted Holden
1991-03-17 8:38 ` MUNTS PHILLIP A
1991-03-17 14:27 ` Ralph Reid III
1991-03-17 20:26 ` csq031
1991-03-18 4:57 ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-18 13:25 ` Matthew S. Granger
1991-03-18 23:17 ` Paul Stachour
1991-03-19 21:17 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 16:14 ` klimas [this message]
1991-03-25 22:01 ` Terry J. Westley
1991-03-18 2:12 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-18 18:13 ` arny.b.engelson
1991-03-19 7:44 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-18 22:12 ` martin
1991-03-16 19:02 ` Ralph Johnson
1991-03-19 16:40 ` klimas
1991-03-21 3:12 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-17 0:47 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-18 23:55 ` adam
1991-03-25 12:42 ` Steven D. Litvinchouk
1991-03-17 0:40 ` Jim Showalter
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1991-03-18 15:27 simonian richard 66449
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1991-03-20 14:03 ` ryer
1991-03-21 15:26 ` Gary W Smith
1991-03-21 18:50 ` Depriest
1991-03-26 2:32 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-26 14:57 ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-27 3:09 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-29 20:30 ` ryer
1991-04-01 14:15 ` Depriest
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